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mdpinh
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2009-03-01          160711


Hi Guys

Thanks for all the input. I have time to go slow with the
stump removal and also need to mow some fields and haul fire wood for the winter months. My ouestion now should I be looking at a B model or a L model in the 30hp?
Mark

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earthwrks
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2009-03-01          160712


Is this a continuation of another post? ....

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cutter
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2009-03-01          160713


Not sure about that myself EW. My personal opinion regarding stumps is the bigger and heavier the machine, the better. There will be roots that you will have difficulty getting to so a small machine will mean more hand work. ....

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earthwrks
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2009-03-01          160714


Yup--it IS another continuation of 2 other posts he started; one 4 days ago, and the other just yesterday. ....

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auerbach
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2009-03-02          160718


There's no easy way. A front bucket or blade is no match unless it's on a dozer. A back-hoe can get it but it's like buying an axe to open a can. A chainsaw can cut it to ground level but it's not easy to make long horizontal cuts. A tripod with chain hoist is the old way but it's hand-work to chop some roots and get the chain under. If some tree-length is on the stump, there's a new attachment called Jawz, comes in three sizes, needs hydraulic connections.

As for treatments, I applied a rotting chemical a decade ago, and they're now giving in. For a somewhat faster effect, there's dynamite.

To me that points to a stump grinder. You can buy or rent a gas-driven one but they're a bit of a handful. I think the best bet is a hitch-mounted one, for which any tractor with at least 20 HP at the PTO would work. ....

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hardwood
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2009-03-02          160719


Auerbach has it covered pretty well. there are custom guys with grinders, but watch him do somebody elses stump before you hire him. There was a guy around the country a few years ago who had kind of a homemade grinder on the three point of an 806 or 1066 Farmall. No curtians, guards, shields etc., chips, rocks, dirt flew all over the place but he had a couple kids along who raked up all the mess before he left. I've never used the stuff, but somebody has a product that is supposed to help them rot away faster than normal if time isn't an issue. Frank. ....

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Murf
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2009-03-02          160724


For my $0.02 worth.....

Unless the stumps are small, and few in numbers, and you are already buying a B/H for something else, and have LOTS of time on your hands with nothing else to do, a CUT with a B/H is certainly not the best tool for the job.

Sort of like digging a pond with a shovel, it can be done, but it's a hard, slow job.

For a mere pittance of what a B/H costs you can rent a much bigger machine for the weekend and be done with no muss or fuss.

A 20,000 pound full size backhoe tractor will clear 10 stumps before you have the first one out with a CUT. Depending on your local rates, you should be able to rent one for the weekend for a few hundred dollars.

Best of luck. ....

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8x56mn
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2009-03-02          160727


Well not sure if it's legal what with all the envioronmental issues, but I have done this a few times with very good success. Drill several holes in the stump from the top down as deep as you can. Pour motor oil into the holes and let it soak for awhile and then pour a little FO into the hole and light it up. It will slowly burn the entire stump from the inside out after a day or two. Call me crazt, but it works. ....

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2009-03-02          160728


I like that idea, could even use it as a BBQ for a couple of days and call it a campfire to avoid the environmental issues :) ....

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2009-03-02          160729


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Well not sure if it's legal what with all the envioronmental issues, but I have done this a few times with very good success. Drill several holes in the stump from the top down as deep as you can. Pour motor oil into the holes and let it soak for awhile and then pour a little FO into the hole and light it up. It will slowly burn the entire stump from the inside out after a day or two. Call me crazt, but it works.


There can be some surprisingly nasty side effects to this method. A friend of mine did this. It smoldered for days and days (maybe weeks) and after awhile smoke was coming up from the ground over an area ~35 feet in diameter and growing. Thankfully a few days of solid rain put it out. You've probably heard of those underground fires that have been burning for decades. ....

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2009-03-02          160730


Yup, it's burning the roots from the inside out like I said. ....

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earthwrks
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2009-03-02          160737


I've said it before, but a skid steer with pallet forks is VERY effective for removing stumps. Since I sold my backhoe that is all I use (backhoe sat for 4 years). And it can be fater than a backhoe (all things considered) depending on the type and size of root system. ....

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2009-03-08          160896


I had a poplar tree in the yard up in Alberta. Had to take it out as it was infested with bugs. Left a black satin on every thing under the tree. I went to the local hardware store and bought a powder called Stump Rot. I mixed the powder in an old milk jug. Drilled holes (about 3/8")in the stump with a cordless. Filled the holes with the mix and left for 2 weeks. refilled the holes and left for the season. in the fall I pulled the stump out with the truck. Te truck didn't even feel the weight because the roots were so rotten. ....

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duke8444
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2009-03-11          160991


I have been sitting on the side in this stump removal post. However, I have solved that problem for myself about removing stumps.

I have an older L2850 with a bucket and tried many times to remove stumps with digging, pulling, burning, etc, etc, etc. and come to the realization that the stumps were put there by God and God can take them away. I came to this realization after having to weld up the bucket frame due to cracking it under the tractor, welding up the cracked bucket lift arms, and then turning a perfectly good box blade into a diamond shape after playing with a few stumps, so it is no longer a box blade since by definition a box is supposed to be square.

So now I look at the stump removal like this:
1. If I did not create the stump, I do not touch it. This is a God problem.
2. I do not create any stumps that I can not live with. See http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/duke8444/Tree%20Removal/ for pictures of such a situation.

The L2850 is absolutely stout enough to remove many stumps, but between the time it takes, the breakage potential on the equipment, it is not worth fooling with them. Just get them professionally removed or live with them.
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2009-03-11          160992


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I have been sitting on the side in this stump removal post.However, I have solved that problem for myself about removing stumps.I have an older L2850 with a bucket and tried many times to remove stumps with digging, pulling, burning, etc, etc, etc. and come to the realization that the stumps were put there by God and God can take them away.I came to this realization after having to weld up the bucket frame due to cracking it under the tractor, welding up the cracked bucket lift arms, and then turning a perfectly good box blade into a diamond shape after playing with a few stumps, so it is no longer a box blade since by definition a box is supposed to be square. So now I look at the stump removal like this:1. If I did not create the stump, I do not touch it.This is a God problem.2. I do not create any stumps that I can not live with.See http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/duke8444/Tree%20Removal/for pictures of such a situation. The L2850 is absolutely stout enough to remove many stumps, but between the time it takes, the breakage potential on the equipment, it is not worth fooling with them.Just get them professionally removed or live with them.


You have to know when to say when. :)
Seems you know when. I find I have plent of patience, sometimes. ....

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2009-03-11          160993


Kenny--of course you have patience--yer a redneck--rednecks have all tghe patience in the world. Know why? "don't do it today. 'cause it'll be there tomorrow"! ....

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bvance
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2009-03-11          160997



I've gotta agree with Murf and Duke on this one...

I've tried too many times to remove stumps with the wrong equipment. It's not worth it.

There are only 2 solutions for any stump: God or a D-8....and sometimes God AND a D-8.

Brian

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Murf
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2009-03-12          161005


Brian, there is one other option, but sizzle, sizzle, BOOM! tends to make a mess of the lawn. LOL

Best of luck. ....

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2009-03-12          161013


Sure is a shame you can not train termites. ....

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2009-03-13          161025


not straying from the original question too much but IMMHO I would go with the L model in the 30 hp simply 'cause that's all I've ever had---other than the f-cubs--and time being on yer side it is sufficient to do the job!!!! ....

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2009-03-13          161051


I agree that if one has enough time you can do most anything, with most anything. The problem as I see it is not so much as a time issue, it's doing something with a piece of equipment it was not designed for. When you apply any tool to a job it was not designed for you will eventually ruin the tool.

Worrying on a stump for hours, one will be constantly putting too much stress on the hoe and the frame that will eventually tear the poor thing up.

I'm a big believer of matching tools to talents. If you don't have the right talent, find someone or something that does. You will be money ahead every time.

Brian ....

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2009-03-14          161053


I agree, my 580LT is about as small as I would care to use for this task. ....

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