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 11-15-2003, 09:15 Post: 68814
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Chief: I wish there were competitors. It's about 25 miles to another rental yard and he counts lug nuts too. Says it's the insurance that makes him do it.

So you can drive into these places with a 60's something PU with a smoking straight six, 3 on the tree, drum brakes on all four corners and bias ply tires and 8 lug nuts, and drive out with a two axle trailer, no questions asked.

And they refuse to rent to the following.

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Curb weight........ 4262
Payload............ 1938
GVRW.................6200
Towing capacity..... 7200
GCWR.............. 11,800






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 11-15-2003, 09:31 Post: 68819
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Murf, I think the four tons per cord number is pretty close.

I have been hauling about 1/5 of a cord at a time in the Tundra (6 feet of bed space, stacked bed high), and that sets it down on it's overload springs. I'm guessing that is 1500-1600 pound load.






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 11-15-2003, 12:15 Post: 68825
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OK, here is a "Rough" calculation of your scenario:


Tundra numbers:
Curb weight........ 4262
Payload............ 1938
GVRW.................6200
Towing capacity..... 7200
GCWR.............. 11,800


The chart does not say what cotton wood weighs per cord but let's estimate 5,000 lbs and 2,000 lbs. for a tandem axle dump trailer. Let's figure about 1.5 cords per trailer load. The wood would weigh 7,500 lbs. and with the trailer that comes to 9,500 lbs.

Adding in the curb weight of your truck; this totals out at 13,762 lbs. Which would put you 1,962 lbs. over your GCVWR.

Even if you reduced the amount of wood to the exact amount of 7,538 lbs. (which puts you right at 11,800 lbs. GCVWR); you still have to deal with tongue weight. Recommended tongue weight to maintain trailer stability (keep sway & high speed wobble to a minimum) is 5% - 8%. I would suggest the higher limit of 8% with that much weight but that puts you over your tongue weight limit of 500 lbs. so lets use 6.5% which comes to 490 lbs.

You could pull this load but you are at the ragged limits of your trucks ability. I can tell you from personal experience that pulling this much weight up much of any type of hill is EXTREMELY taxing on your automatic trans. (take a look at the boat and tow rig I have in my pics) On hills with my boat in tow pulling with my old K2500 Suburban with the 4L80E trans. & 4.10 gears; I would be down to 30 mph with the peddle to the floor in second gear. The trans. would get VERY hot (inspite of a Mag-Hytek trans pan, synthetic trans oil, and 2 trans oil coolers.

If they want to play ball that way. Rent their sigle axle trailer and load it up as high as you can stack it. You should still be able to get a damn heavy load of wood on it and not be so hard on your truck. Alot of folks think my truck was huge over kill for what I do with it but they never tow like I do. I pull a full trailer of fresh cut oak when I am cutting which comes to nearly 1.5 cords. I can tell you that it IS HEAVY. Use 4 lo if you go off pavement to unload the trailer. It is MUCH easier on the rig.

The Toyota Tundra is a nice truck Mark. Just don't want to see you damage it. When I first started cutting fire wood, I was astonished at how much it weighs. I don't load my trialer up like I used to now that I realize how much weight is had on the trailer (over 11,000 lbs. in some cases).

Here is a chart to help estimate wood weights:







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I'm just tired of handling each piece several times and I would be happy just to haul 1/2 cord at a time.

My plan would have been to put about twice as much wood in the trailer as I can get in the truck. That would have given me a 5000-5500 pound tow load, about all I care to haul on a ball hitch.






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I hear ya brother! Cutting it, loading it, unloading it, splitting it, reloading it, unloading it at the point of sale. Being able to load it in the trailer the 1st time with a FEL and unloading with a dump trailer sure does save some sweat and aching back! Wink yeah right






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1* I like Toyota's; have 4 in the family.
2*The new F150, the new Nissan Titan, the Silverado
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1*4 Toyotas or 4 family members?
2*I wouldn't trade 1 Toyota for one each of these.






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Hain't my neighbor licky?
He can get free firewood next door?






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So you can drive into these places with a 60's something PU with a smoking straight six, 3 on the tree, drum brakes on all four corners and bias ply tires and 8 lug nuts, and drive out with a two axle trailer, no questions asked.
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3 on the tree is a new one to me.
I had 2 Convertables like that.One was a 1960 Chevy Impala with 3 duces and high speed cam.
The other was a 1971 Chevy Cheville Malilibu.
Back then those with 4 on the floor were the hot ones,but that didn't bother my Impala.It would do 55 in 100 feet on the first limb of the tree.IE first gear.






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So you can drive into these places with a 60's something PU with a smoking straight six, 3 on the tree, drum brakes on all four corners and bias ply tires and 8 lug nuts, and drive out with a two axle trailer, no questions asked.
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This is just another example of a business not knowing enough about their business to be in that business.
Anyone like that has no business being in the business.
Two of the worst businesses like that are banks and insurance companies.

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