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 05-21-2008, 19:44 Post: 153853
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I ordered 5 gal low viscosity HY GARD and filter (+some parts)from my dealer. Got the call all was in and drove 45 mins to pick up. Now is when I find out they have substituted Kubota K40105 super UDT for the low vis HY GARD. They say it's the same. My question is, is it? I hate paying a premium and not getting what the manual calls for.
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 05-21-2008, 21:39 Post: 153854
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Hettric; I'm not positive, but looking at some of your past posts I think you have a Deere tractor. Super UDT is for Kubota's and Hy-Gard Lo Vis is for Deere. I just won't use a product unless the owners manual calls for it. I doubt that the cost is much different. Personally I would have refused it. Frank.






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 05-21-2008, 22:23 Post: 153857
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I'm with Frank on this one. It might work ok but the downside risk is all yours. Using it will only give JD an excuse to not honor the warranty down the road, and if it's out of warranty you could be out some big money. It's just not worth it.






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 05-21-2008, 23:09 Post: 153859
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Kubota Super UDT is good stuff. I think if you look WAAAAAY back in the posts of this website you may find a few threads on Kubota Super UDT. If my memory serves me correctly (and it rarely does) Wink yeah right I believe Chevron makes this fluid for Kubota but I need to go back and verify that. I am not sure. In the mean time here is some poop on Super UDT:

http://www.tractorsmart.com/kubota/kubota_super_udt_fluid.htm

Super UDT is very similar to Chevron THF.






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 05-21-2008, 23:27 Post: 153860
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Hettric,

It's up to you to decide for yourself, but if I were you, I'd keep the Super UDT fluid.

Super UDT is the best there is. It will not harm a thing in your John Deere tractor. In fact, it may well save you some expensive repairs down the line.

Super UDT is used exclusively in my Kubota. However, I would use it in any tractor I owned, no matter which brand or color it may be. I've had my tractor running at temperatures as low as -30 degrees F., with absolutely no problems. I also use it during the summer months, when temps reach nearly 100 degrees.

I believe you got yourself a bargain. I just purchased 5 gallons of Super UDT for my Kubota, at a price of 24 dollars per gallon. It's expensive stuff, but well worth it in the end. There is nothing better on the market.

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 05-21-2008, 23:41 Post: 153861
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Kubota Super UDT.

See the link below, from 2004.

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 05-22-2008, 08:02 Post: 153865
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Joel; Wow, are you sure about the price of the Kubota fluid? The last Hy-Gard I bought a couple years ago was I think around 8.50 per gal. in 2 1/2 jugs. Has this stuff gone up that much and I'm just out of touchI just assumed it all was prety close in price. Frank.






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 05-22-2008, 08:05 Post: 153867
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 John Deere low viscosity HY GARD

With liquids that go into machines, formulas change as the result of new laws, raw materials, processing systems, machinery changes, market forces, and whatnot. But there's fakes of everything around, so you have to rely on two good names: the maker's and the seller's. I could put horse pee in a drum, and label it Kubota or Deere fluid meeting specs so-and-so, and offer it cheap to a dealer -- but a good dealer will buy only through official channels.

To further protect yourself you could send a letter or email to the head office of the maker, saying what the dealer told you, and that unless you hear to the contrary, you will take it that using this product will not void your warranty.






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 05-22-2008, 08:55 Post: 153868
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Cheif and Joel; I have no doubts about Super UDT being a good product, but show me a Deere owners manual recommending Super UDT or a Kubota owners manual recommending Hy-Gard Lo-Vis. Do as you please, but I jut won't stray from an owners manual. Frank.






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I think if you look in the manual it will use wording like 'JD RECOMMENDS the use of Hy-Gard Lo-Vis fluid' but then further back in the book it will it will say in the specifications, or under fluid & filter requirements something like 'JD Hy-Gard Lo-Vis fluid or if unavailable a quality oil that meets JD Specification number blah, blah, blah.'.

In fact I suspect you will find a half a dozen specifications or standards for it, usually a JD, Cat, Case and a few others. If memory serves it is JD "J20D" equivalent you are looking for and MANY companies make something that meets that specification. I know the Chevron "THF W" & ""Synthetic All-Weather THF" fluids are an equivalent, as is Shell "Donax TDL".

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