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 | dickweed
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2003-09-11 63607
I see greed has set in here and totally screwedup a great site.No- I won't pay your damn fee.Get your advertising dollars from someone else. If you need money to stay working all you had to do was ask. Now I'll most likely get spam from this site like all the other pukes out there.
I really enjoyed this site......now it can rot in hell.
Anyone else feel this way? Speak up,this is America Damnit!
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 | Misenplace
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 875 Michigan 
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2003-09-11 63608
Dont Be a DICK dick. Just because its America does not mean a self proclaimed little puke like you gets a free ride. Back to the welfare line with yee, and good ridens. ....
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 | kwschumm
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2003-09-11 63609
Since "This is America, Dammit!" maybe you should exercise your freedom of association and go to one of the sites run by somebody who shares your view of entitlements. ....
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 | DRankin
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2003-09-11 63610
Dennis, I clicked on Dick Weeds profile and got the following:
"1 is an Unregistered User and Is Yet a Member of the CTB"
What am I missing here? ....
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 | DennisCTB
Join Date: Nov 1998 Posts: 2713 NorthWest NJ
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2003-09-11 63611
I deleted dickweed from our membership as his profile was distasteful, and I don't care to edit profiles. If dickweed would like to register again and play nice with the rest of us he is welcome. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2003-09-11 63612
Really? After a rant like that....... and a distasteful profile too? My heavens! Whoda thunk it? ....
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| DennisCTB
Join Date: Nov 1998 Posts: 2713 NorthWest NJ
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2003-09-11 63613
What I have discovered is that the vast majority of users of this site are unregistered visitors (Non Members).
This presents numerous problems, unregistered users demand site resources and rarely post value added content, that's just the way it is. Value added content can have the form of a question on tractor use, buying etc., or a response to such a question. In other words useful dialog, exchange, interaction ..... We have all seen the occasional visitor like dickweed who seeks to insult rather than consult.
Registration involves thinking up a Userid, and a password, and entering an email address, which we use for administration purposes only, and can be hidden from all TractorPoint members.
Registration allows me to track site usage and to offer subscription services like our "Premium Membership", a future optional subscription newsletter.
Not a big deal really.
Previously I allowed unregistered users to view message content up to 400 characters in length. Today I changed that policy.
As of today unregistered users can only see a "keyword abstract" of TractorPoint content up to 400 characters.
I would prefer to route unregistered users to a registration page instead but that presents other problems. Search engines are unregistered users and would bypass TractorPoint content if I did. But search engines "like" keywords so that is what has be left in the messages for unregistered users.
So if it is not too hard and you are unregistered, please take a moment to register.
In case anyone has the misconception that advertising reaps significant revenue, HELLO. Almost all forums are going to a membership subscription basis, I know its a switch and it may not feel right but I cannot operate the site without subscriptions.
Thanks to all that have upgraded to "premium" membership and because of our long term contributors TractorPoint is still a viable and great place to get information on Tractor purchases and use.
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Dennis
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| Misenplace
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 875 Michigan
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2003-09-11 63614
Good grief. I just dont understand all the hub bub over a lousy 20 bucks. I can shake that mutch out of my wifes piggy ( eh eh eh :) ) any day. Nothing for nothing. Dave ....
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| DennisCTB
Join Date: Nov 1998 Posts: 2713 NorthWest NJ
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2003-09-11 63615
It's worse than that Doc!
Dickweed wasn't sending TractorPoint any subscription fee.
Its amazing all the whining and hostility that was in his profile saying how awful it was for me to change the policy after he has been using the board for years, (probably copying content to another board) complaining about having to create a userid and a password, and that I was going to SPAM him.
Give me a break, anyone see a post before from dickweed....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2003-09-11 63616
It's the entitlement mentality at work. ....
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| Misenplace
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2003-09-11 63617
Dennis, personally I think you should make all non paying members register. If they dont register no posting. After they register they get 30 days to kick out the payment or some time frame like that. After that they dont get to log on at all with out paying. Why should you work for less and who gives a rats behind if you make $$ on advertiseing. Why is it people always think the other fellows time is worth less. But then what would we honestly expect from any one with a handle like that ? Dave ....
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| DennisCTB
Join Date: Nov 1998 Posts: 2713 NorthWest NJ
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2003-09-11 63618
It is ironic that many people have gotten thousands of dollars of value from the board by its advocacy on things like recalls, and getting better prices on equipment, learning from all of you how to fix and operate tractors. And yet ....
I have gotten emails from some that have said you know Dennis it is because of my years of using TractorPoint that I saved $4000 on my John Deere Tractor by getting them to repair it based on TractorPoint data......yatee yah!
And the same guy says you know Dennis you have huge "XhkjUs" to charge me $19.97 for a years subscription to TractorPoint! This is outrageous I'll take my business (what business) elsewhere.
And so it goes.......
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| Misenplace
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2003-09-11 63620
Our first years in buisiness we used to really sweat that kind of stuff. Drove our selves crazy trying to please every one which just cant be done. Patients come and go. Such is life. Dont sweat it too much or you'll wind up bald like me :( lol Dave ....
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 | harvey
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2003-09-11 63621
Richard probably had a hard childhood. Of course it could have been worse... his name could have been Head...
I think you are doing a good job dennis and me thinks the forum does not need a formal registration.
The beauty of this internet is if you don't like go somewhere else. OR make your own free to anyone who wants to use it site. Oh yeah and buy the software, the virus programs, and the knowledge to make it all work. Did I mention bandwidth? ....
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| DK35vince
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2003-09-11 63622
Doc,
From what I saw his handle fits !! ....
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| Misenplace
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2003-09-11 63623
Fitz where ? Dave ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2003-09-11 63624
$19.97 a year?
$1.66 a month?
Why that is almost 6 cents a day.
Highway robbery! ....
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| Misenplace
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 875 Michigan
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2003-09-11 63625
GET DOWN OFF THAT TRACTOR AND PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR ! ROTFLMAO !! Heck I can get that many pennys out of my stash, dont even need to scam the bosses casino fund :) Dave ....
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| BYE BYE
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2003-09-11 63627
I don't kow if anyone can read this, as I am an unreg. user, and can't read anything now. As an OCCASIONAL (rare) reader of tractorpoint, I saw no need to pay the fee. This is ridiculous, I will be deleting this URL from my bookmarks. Art White, sorry man, your banners here are now waaaay too expensive; you will no longer reach tractor owners like myself. Dennis, take a freaking marketing course. Its called sales, you promote your site, and you get sponsors. ....
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| DennisCTB
Join Date: Nov 1998 Posts: 2713 NorthWest NJ
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2003-09-11 63629
Bye Bye,
Its really interesting that you are so UPSET! Were you really enjoying reading Tractorpoint so much as a voyeur?
You need to LISTEN or READ a bit more closely TractorPoint is not requiring`payment to read the board.
"Free Registration" is now required to read messages up to 400 characters. Premium membership is required for messages over 400 characters and includes other features like classifieds, notifications, Photo Album, and soon discounts at participating dealers
To reduce your stress you need to:
1)Pick a better userid than BYE BYE
2)Think up a password
Hmmmm ! that seems to be it
Tired yet... hmmmmh thought so... lets try some aerobic exercise. Yup!!! stop playing come on you can do it that a boy.
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2003-09-11 63631
It's pretty funny when these non-participants bail out and think anyone cares. Heck, we didn't even know they existed - why would we care? ....
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 | Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4302 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-09-11 63634
I don't know what to tell you guys! I go out for 4 or 5 hours cutting grass and go to a meeting and look at the ruckus you stirred up! You guys just can't behave for more than a few hours. ;-) You stick to your guns Dennis! If those folks think it is so bad here......... let them go over to the "other tractor board" and they will be in for a nasty surprise. This IS the best tractor board on the internet! I plug it and invite folks I meet and encounter to come and join every chance I get. ....
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| kwschumm
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2003-09-11 63635
Perhaps it's a coincidence that the initials of the president of rapid _ _ _ _ _ _.com are D.W. as in DICK WEED. Nah.
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I took out some of the letters of DW's url, unless he becomes a further nuisance, we should protect the privacy of participants. ....
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| DennisCTB
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2003-09-11 63637
Thanks Chief I sure appreciate your support. ....
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| Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4302 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-09-11 63638
Did you send him some hate mail Ken? I thought pretty seriously about it and then counted to 10. Now that I am on that Atkins diet and about 20 lbs. lighter, I think I am a bit more layed back and less tense. ....
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| kwschumm
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2003-09-11 63640
No, I figure nothing I can do to insult him will be worse than being a dickweed :)
Good for you on Atkins, Chief. It's not working very well for me - I lost 6 lbs in the first three weeks and nothing more in the subsequent month. I'm still hanging in there though and I'm being good. ....
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| Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4302 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-09-11 63642
Have you read his book "Atkins for Life" ? The Sergeant Major checked it out at the library for me. Had a lot of great info. with respect to what to eat and NOT to eat. ....
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| DennisCTB
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2003-09-11 63643
Chief, Ken,
All this ranting has created some improvement in my vision.
Guys who ride on tractors might need to lose some weight. Aha, That's it TractorPoint will begin marketing a weight loss program, we'll make a fortune, on me alone.
Hey maybe we should have a contest, with some sort of prize! ....
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| kwschumm
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2003-09-11 63644
Chief, my wife is doing it with me. The first thing she does whenever starting a new kick is go to amazon and buy every book she can on the topic. I think she singlehandedly keeps amazon in business. We've got "Atkins for Life" along with a dozen others. It just doesn't work fast for some people. My cousin is on Atkins and is being supervised by a doctor - she has lost about 20 lbs but it's taken 15 months so far for her. ....
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| Chief
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2003-09-11 63645
Dennis, I can see it now! The "Tractor Point Low Carb Weight Loss System". "We guarantee that for every pound you lose, we will buy the wheel/ballast weight for your tractor"! The first couple of weeks was tough. I love my chips, cookies, pizza, beer, and Captain Morgan. ....
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| kwschumm
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2003-09-11 63646
Well, if they can't lose weight maybe they just need BIGGER TRACTORS! As far as a contest I figure I'm already behind the 8-ball but every little motivator will help. I may even start using our dusty treadmill in the basement! ....
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| Chief
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2003-09-11 63649
I am VERY proud of you guys though........ not one took the bait from "OldNoffNoBetter". You guys are gettin' pretty sharp on the trolls. Where do they all come from??? ....
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 | blizzard
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2003-09-11 63652
I certainly have received my $19.97 worth of information and education. In less than 2 months! Too bad some people have to have everything for no money. Perhaps dw should start a newsgroup so he can draw all the spammers, like moths to a flame......
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| Misenplace
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2003-09-12 63659
You guys do know what happened to Dr.Atkins dont you ? lol. He died from sress because he didnt have a tractor ! No diets here but I went to a AA meeting the other day. They said, Dave do you drink too much ?, I said just on Fridays, they through me out and said theres nothin wrong with you ! So I tried a 12 step program for addicts. They said, Whats your drug of choice....I said Diesel Fuel..Diesel Fuel ? You sniff it ??? Nope. I burn it. WHAT ?? You mean you free base diesel fuel ??? NO NO NO I burn it in my tractor. Im addicted to my tractor and tractor forums ! LOL But there is one other small problem...Whats that ? I HATE TROLLS ! maybe I should try a program for anger mamagement ? NOT ! Dave ....
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 | Art White
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2003-09-12 63664
Dennis, it's too bad that people get offended, some do it very easily, some hardly ever. But if you have never offended anyone then chances are you never did anything and thats worse! We do live in America and we can speak out. We also can move on! I do enjoy being here! Now back to compact tractors!!!! ....
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 | plots1
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2003-09-12 63668
All this talk about loseing weight, hell i'm trying to put on a few pounds, It helps ballast the tractor. LOL ....
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| BH3131
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2003-09-12 63669
Dennis,
I have unknowingly resembled a lot of the remarks express in this thread. Although I will generally remain somewhat in the background, listening, learning, and enjoying the vast amount of information being shared by tractor enthusiasts, what was being said, made sense to me. Hence, Dennis you have my 6 cents per day. I have only posted twice since arriving here a couple months back (on accident), and both were questions, not answers. However I did use the board to make what I believe was a sound purchase. A JD 2210, 210 FEL, 48" box blade, which is scheduled for delivery today. Thanks, to everyone who participates (properly) in this forum.
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| TomG
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2003-09-12 63671
Hope you like the tractor. Without questions there can't be answers and then philosophy is the only thing that remains. Questions are contributions too.
Wonder what I missed in the middle part of this discussion but probably not enough to want something like a troll of the month page.
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| rjmills
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2003-09-12 63672
Dennis,
Just sent my payment in via PayPal and should have done it a month ago or so when I found this jewel. As many have said if by getting experienced advice can save you pain on decision, money on purchase, money on preventitive damage:) it is well worth it.
We are not talking about toys here(well it will be my toy) they cost a considerable amount of money and can do some damage for the newbies....
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 | Murf
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2003-09-12 63683
Personally, I wonder how many of those trolls got thrown out of tractor dealers for screaming at the poor salesman, telling him at the top of their lungs that it was un-American to want to make a profit off his God-given right to a tractor.
Hmmmm ... they think profit is wrong...
Hmmmmm ... didn't the Russians try that ...
Hmmmm ... maybe these people should be corrected by a polite note to the administrator of their server asking them to refrain from posting lewd, offensive comments to this board... maybe management would have 'words' with them about it....
As for the diets, I tried one 5 years ago, it worked great, I lost 135 pounds in two weeks.
I went away for two weeks and when I came home she was gone.
It's true what they say, you do feel aLOT better after you lose that much weight.
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| Misenplace
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2003-09-14 63805
Murf, Thats a great Diet !!! My first diet took years to resolve and kept coming back like a bad dream. :) Dave ....
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| drgavin
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2003-10-13 66154
I've read Dickweeds rant and he seems to have gotten blasted by to much spam and or hidden fees in the past.
It may be like getting stuck in traffic to much and then ya blow!
Or maybe he was just trying to get peoples goat to see what happened?Certainly is alot of traffic on this post.Hmmm??
I personally think it's kind funny in a wierd sort of way. ....
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