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 04-04-2000, 00:00 Post: 14457
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

I asked my local dealer why they use calcium chloride to fill tires and he said, "cause that's what we got". Because of the corrosive nature of calcium chloride, I am not satisfied with that response. I have heard of folks using an antifreeze/water mix to fill their tires, and am wondering if anyone has a successful "homebrewed" method of filling tires this way. Remove tire and lay flat? Remove valve stem and...? BTW, tractor dealer says calcium chloride is heavier per gallon, but at hundreds of dollars to fill 'em, I can go a long way on antifreeze if this proves to be a good alternative. Any input is appreciated.






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 04-04-2000, 00:00 Post: 14466
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

Scott, I use water-antifreeze and it works very well. Not as heavy but will do the job just the same.If you go to www.gemplers.com you can see and order the tools to do this job .The one I use cost about $8.00.You will need a few things to get started.A small pump(like one that fits in a drill)and a couple pieces of garden hose and the tool that screws on the valve stem.Try to keep the fluid up above the tire so gravity will help.Go slow and push the button on the tool every so often to let the air out.Keep the water away from the drill! Fill so the mix is up to the top of the rim.Take the weight off the wheel.Thats it. It takes awhile ! Good Luck -Ken






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 04-04-2000, 00:00 Post: 14468
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

Scott, I have used antifreeze for seven year without any problems. Just remember to add enough antifreeze to cover your geographical area. Follow Ken's recommendations, can't get any easier than that.






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 04-04-2000, 00:00 Post: 14469
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

The main reason calcium chloride is used is because it adds a significant amount of weight. It shouldn't cost hundreds of dollars to fill a comopacts tire. I just had a 18.4-28" tire drained & filled to fix a hole & it cost $15. I have a kitfor filling tires with fluid. It attaches to the tube & you pressurize a barrel to 4psi to fill the tube. I used it once. It isn't worth messing around with for $15. I'd much rather have chloride spill on the ground from a leak than antifreeze. I've seen what antifreeze does to an animal that licked it because it is sweet tasting.






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 04-06-2000, 00:00 Post: 14510
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

When they filled my tires filled with antifreeze they used an "RV" antifreeze.
They said it was not supposed to be toxic to plants or animals. Hope this helps






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 04-06-2000, 00:00 Post: 14513
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

I've been playing with the Calcium Chloride mixture just to see how much weight it adds to the weight of water. Theoretically you ought to be able to get a 30% increase, but I've only been able to dissolve enough to get a 20% increase so far. And even at that density the CaCl is not totally dissolved. So the best I could expect would be that 100 pounds of water would weight 120 pounds if I mix in the CaCl at maximum density. Two things here: The CaCl is standard Ag grade (bought at JD in 50# bag) and is 95% pure. The other 5% appears to be clay, but it may be something which inhibits dissolving to the full 30%. Perhaps chemical reagent grade CaCl is more soluable than than industrial grade. Also, dissolving the CaCl produces lots of heat! Don't try it in a plastic container. And I wouldn't pour water on top of CaCl. Pour the powder in instead. I haven't tried the antifreeze, so I don't know if it is heavier or lighter than water. Maybe I'll try that next. BTW, the CaCl cost about $20 per 50# bag. Don't let it touch any metal; it will rust it immediately.






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 04-06-2000, 00:00 Post: 14519
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

I have been considering proplylene glycol antifreeze for the rear tires of my 4100. Sierra makes a product for automobiles that runs about $7 a gallon, mix 50/50 with water. There is also a "RV" antifreeze used to protect water systems over the winter. Walmart sells it for $2.88 a gallon. I wonder if the anti-corrosion properties are similar. Either way, you get the weight benefits of straight water without the worries about freezing or poisoning animals in the case of a leak. The R4's on the 4100 take about 15 gallons each, for a total price of about $90 .
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 04-08-2000, 00:00 Post: 14570
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

Scott, the reason you will probably never hear a dealer mention an ethylene glycol antifreeze/water solution for ballast in a tractor tire is because it's against the law. I use calcium chloride in the rear of my JD 5310. I use a tube in the tires which keeps the solution off the steel wheels. If I had to do it over again I would not use anything in my tires but air. At highway speeds (18 mi/hr) you can really tell it's in there.
I don't know anything about "RV" antifreeze, but it sounds like it might be a good solution if non toxic and non corrosive.






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 04-08-2000, 00:00 Post: 14577
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

Bird, rule of thumb on calcium mix is 50 gallons of water and two bags calcium. We are getting a full mix on that and our bags are 80lbs. Normal price is $18. per bag water is still free here in N.Y.but we do ahve to pay our help and for the machines to fill them. A realistic cost on filling a compact tractor tire and adding tubes is $200.? Does depend on size of tires for the tubes and amount of mix. I still don't like calcium or anything in tires due to the traction losses and prefer cast iron or other solid type of weight.






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 04-08-2000, 00:00 Post: 14600
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 Filling rear tractor tires with antifreeze

Scott, You obviously hit on a topic of high interest. My experience and opinion...go with an antifreeze, if it is nontoxic so much the better. I had antifreeze (+water) in my JD 316 wheels for 12 years, no tubes and no corrosion.
I bought a tool at my local JDeere dealer to fill the tire. It attaches to tire stem and allows you to attach a garden hose to it. First bleed your air out. Hold both garden hose ends up chest level and fill garden hose with antifreeze through a funnel. Attach hose end to tire stem and other end to water spicket. Turn on water and push antifreeze into tire. Repeat until you put as much antifreeze in tire as you want and then top off with water. If you are still not at a pressure you desire you can always add a little air also. You will gain significant weight at very low cost. Hope that helps, e mail me if you wish.






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