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Peters
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2006-02-15          124587


Well here I sit in Rogers AR in a new La Quinta and the white throne is rather warm. I check the seat, normal plastic. I check the bowl, normal porcelain. Well the tank is rather warm. I flush the commode and it gets warmer. Well, where did this guy get his ticket? How much does it cost to flush the toilet? How are you going to fix this?
I talked with the desk, Yes there are a few rooms with this problem. Well I thought I had seen everything in plumbing problems!!!!!

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2006-02-15          124589


Hey, sounds like a good feature! ....

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2006-02-15          124591


This is a common problem in Alaska. The ground water is soooo cooold that the toilet tanks are covered with condensation and drip all over the floor and grow mold if not attended to.

The answer is to use a blending valve between the hot and cold water lines to temper the water, but after a couple of years the cold side plugs up and you get a serious rump sauna.

If the water gets too hot it melts the wax ring at the base of the toilet and then you get a foot bath.

But somehow I don't think this is the issue in Arkansas. ....

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2006-02-15          124593


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AR the ground temperature is about 58. On the third floor it would warm in the building anyway.
In the north I have seen the toilet blankets and trays, but not the mixing valves. So I guess I was not far enough north. You never have seen everything. ....

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2006-02-16          124597


Peters, what were you doing in NW ARK? Your being in that part of the country reminded me of my youthful days in SW MO which in turn reminded of sitting out in the old outhouse when the temp. was about 10 degrees out. I would have welcomed any kind of indoor plumbing in those days, hot or cold water in the stool. It used to get so cold in the bedroom that we would heat a brick up on top of the Warmmorning stove, wrap it a cloth and then put it bed with us to keep our feet warm. It makes me really appreciate the way we live today. ....

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2006-02-16          124603


Peters,

Not sure if the plumber there moved from here there or the other way. But, he plumbed at least one, in one restroom in our church in coastal SC.


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2006-02-16          124611


I did that same thing....... on purpose.

My loving wife used to complain because our en suite is a 12' x 12' second floor only addition, it forms a ceiling to part of the sunroom below. You can just see it as the white clad, brown roof that extends out to the left of the left dormer on my picture # 1. It has 120 sq. feet of window and is electrically heated only to 60 in the winter. A bath or shower quickly warms it, but a fast "throne session" doesn't.

So I put a flex line and valve from the bidet next to the throne to the water supply line, and a shut off on the cold.

When she wants a warm seat she just has to flip the two levers and give it pre-emptive flush and wait a few seconds.

It's amazing what a guy will do for peace and quiet huh? ....

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2006-02-16          124612


Using a mix valve for the toilet was quite common around here to prevent tank sweating in the summer. After air conditioning became pretty much a standard you did'nt need them anymore. Frank. ....

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2006-02-16          124614


I know I am missing a real financial opportunity here by sharing this thought and not going to manf myself...or I will get a reply yep they are out there...

Electric heated seats. Seems simple.

If you want a simple one with off the shelf items you should be able to get close with first getting a lid that fits agains the seat with no gap. Then place small heating pad on top of the lid with a cover (this will make it look good and give insulation value) over the lid to hold it in place. Find an old washing machine with the mercury switch that was mounted to the lid and wire it in so it only heats when closed.

Now, please don't rig this so we see it on a murder mystery show.

Living where 30 is cold I have always felt for those in colder climates from years gone by. ....

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2006-02-16          124615


Google for heated toilet seats and you'll have lots of sites to select from. The problem about manufacturing these types of devices yourself are patents. You know how toilet seats always get grungy in the hinge area? I had an idea for a "quick release" toilet seat that you could easily detach and take to a sink to wash. Went to do a patent search on toilet seats and there are hundreds - including several on different quick release mechanisms for seats. Just think of all the brain power that goes into toilet technology. The mind boggles. ....

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2006-02-16          124617


My Dad rigged a heated seat in the outhouse at the lake years ago.

There was a bare bulb-type light in there switched from the back door so you could see to go out there, do your thing, and then see to get back to the cottage again.

In cool weather spring & fall he swapped out the regular bulb for a reflector type heat lamp bulb. A black seat made sure that it was toasty and warm by the time you got there.

Best of luck. ....

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2006-02-16          124618


Ken,

This has got to be the best laugh I have had in while thinking on this...

The sink you wanted to use is not the kitchen one is it?
Naw. If you wanted to cut down on dinnger guest just have a toilet seat in the dish strainer drying.

I understand in some of the the formal communist countries toilet seats are missing in motels. Is there where the quick releases are used? Could be advanted there, carry your own..Can see the suitcases with the special compartment. That might be where the money is and not in the seat itself! Then you get into custom designed and fitted models.

And we thought laptop personnal computers were special.

Now to lunch.

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2006-02-16          124625


We bunked at a resort in the Islands while building out their golf course a few years back and the rooms had a nifty bathroom design.

The front part (closest to the room) of the bathroom, was the 'dry' part, it contained the sink, counter & mirror on one wall and lots of shelves, hooks and a bench on the other wall. When you walked into the second, further section, there was a raised door threshold like on a ship and contained a toilet and shower head built into the wall. The entire compartment, about 6' x 6', was a shower stall.

The shower head was on a long hose and you could hose down the entire compartment, in fact you could sit on the throne to wash your legs & feet, it made rinsing the grime off really easy.

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2006-02-16          124629


kt, that's a good one. Have a guest help out in the kitchen by emptying the dishwasher. Imagine their surprise when they find a toilet seat in the dishwasher! In our case we could use the mudroom sink, but who knows what others will do? The thing I don't understand is that manufacturers never seem to have made quick detach seats. ....

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2006-02-16          124630


Murf, some Burger King's I know have that sort of design in the kitchens. After close they can hot-hose down the entire kitchen. Makes a lot of sense when you think about it. ....

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2006-02-17          124716


The bathrooms in the hotels in China and Korea that I stayed in were designed like that. I felt odd showering without a curtain and such. I guess I was a bit westernized. Just don't go in there in your sock feet until it dries. ....

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2006-02-21          124923


a plumer friend of mine had an apprentice that hooked the tolit up to the hot water, 3 months later when the lady of the house asked why when she washes the tolit it is hot,he went back and fixed it. to bad there was a finished kitchen below it. ....

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