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 07-19-2004, 16:36 Post: 91345
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Well I have placed my order today for the 4110 after reading the postings here. Just wanted to say thanks for all your help. I wanted to buy the 4115 but the money dif held me back.

I was wondering if this is right. I can use my rear blade as balance when using a bucket. THis is what the dearler told me. I was thinking that it would be alot of space behind me when working in tight spots. He told me he would through in a balace box for free. So how much weight should be in this box.

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 07-19-2004, 17:03 Post: 91348
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Your operator's manual for the FEL will cover the amount of weight recommended for the weight box. It will cover wheel weight and tire filling as well. Make sure the dealer gives you one FREE, it IS part of the FEL and comes with it.






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 07-19-2004, 17:07 Post: 91349
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I find my rear blade being (Frontier 60"Wink yeah right too light for me when doing max FEL work...and that is with CaCl tires as well.
When I know I'm maxing out at every dig, I use the ballast box with 800 lbs weight inside along with the combined weight of the Cacl tires. Even with all that I could probably use a few hundred more pounds -but I feel pretty solid with the weight I have now.. Your manual for the FEL has some quidelines to work from. You can subsitute wheel weights to offset CaCl tires for example...There is I guess a trade off using either CaCl in tires, where its advantage is cheap effective weight.With the downside of corrosion (but if in tubes should be ok) and toxic to plant life if a leak occurs. Wheel weights are great but usually very expensive...

Anyway you got a great machine! happy motoring!!

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 07-19-2004, 17:39 Post: 91352
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Your loader manual will lay out the weight requirements.... 1100+ pounds...... believe it!

If you want to see how much rear ballast is needed on a 4110, see my #2 picture.

You rear blade will not be enough weight, and it will be a bit clumsy.






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 07-19-2004, 18:54 Post: 91356
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The dealer told me the same thing on my 4115 that I recently bought, namely that the rear blade will be sufficient for balance. I've used the FEL with rear blade for balance and have had no problems with full heavy dirt loads in my full-sized bucket (not the smaller standard version). Just to be on the safe side, I had the rear tires filled. Oh yeah, I run with the iMatch on the rear too, but it's not very heavy though. Not even the hint of any problems.






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 07-19-2004, 19:08 Post: 91358
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That is because the 4115 has different ballast requirements.

The 4115 is more than 6 inches longer and 300 pounds heavier. That may not sound like much but extending the wheelbase by 10 percent adds a lot of leverage to keep the rear end down.

I have had both..... the 4115 needs less ballast than the 4100.






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 07-19-2004, 20:20 Post: 91365
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I've used the Frontier RB1060 blade as ballast w/ the 4110 / 410 loader... after moving approx. 150 tons of dirt, gravel, and fertilizer. I can honestly tell ya that the rear blade seems more than adequate ballast for moving anything but gravel. Even moving gravel, I've never had the rear tires "lift" with the blade on.
The 3pt ballast box JD sells weighs approx. 800lbs. when filled with concrete. The RB1060 blade only weighs 262lbs. but has a much greater arm... I don't have the #'s on the total moment of each... anywho... Long story short, I only use the blade and have never had a problem.






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cherymax ,

Just a few questions regarding your application, do you have liquid filled tires or wheel weights? and what size is your bucket?

I can assure you the rear blade is too light ( I have the same frontier) with a 61" bucket and CaCl tires on a 4100 - its the same as a 4110...
Of course you are free to disagree with this statement Smile

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 07-22-2004, 08:35 Post: 91624
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Duc,

I use the 410 loader, 53" bucket w/ the JD I-match and rb1060 blade as ballast for everything but moving gravel.

I will be adding wheel weights... but as of now, that's it.

It's been many years since I had physics, but dig this Smile

Moment comparions(please don't nickel and dime my weights and measurements this isn't scientific.):

-- JD ballast box vs. I-match hitch w/ RB1060 blade --

JD Ballast box: 800lbs * 1.25' arm = moment of 1000 ftlbs

I-match hitch(75lbs) w/ blade(262lbs) 373lbs * 3.17' arm = moment of 1068 ftlbs






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 07-22-2004, 09:51 Post: 91631
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well as of 7 22 04 my tractor (4110) is at the dealer but all the other hang on parts are not, this is driving me nuts. I have things to do places to go with this baby.

From what I am reading I should be thinking of wheel waits etc. for bucket work. To date all I have order is the box to hang on the back or the rear blade. I do not like the idea of filling the wheels with cal. What about flats etc. I was wondering the box fill with scrap steel would be ok, I realy do not want to fill it with cement incase I want to use it for tools when cutting wood in the woods and not bucket work or is it even big enough for a chain saw oil etc.
If I am lucky very lucky the tractor will be ready Fri. Can any one call my dealer amd make a plead for me.
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