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 12-16-2003, 20:21 Post: 71410
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My quest to find out everything I can about the capabilites of eHydro vs gear tractors; some folks have complained about lack of power experienced with hydro pulling a steep incline. My question is; can a JD 4310/4410 pull a relatively steep hill with a full load in the bucket and ballast weight on the tractor. I assume a gear transmission in low gear would have no problem.






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 12-16-2003, 20:31 Post: 71411
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In my experience with the eHydro you should have no problem, especially if you have LoadMatch turned on. I've driven up steep hills with a 600 lb. grapple carrying hundreds of pounds of slash, over 1000 lbs of loaded tires, and a heavy rotary cutter and never even had the thought that there was an issue. Will your JD dealer let you test drive it under similar circumstances? That would be best if you can work it out. I think the only one who has complained about it is Art who has admitted to not being familiar with the tractor. I don't think I've ever heard of an owner complaining about this.






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 12-16-2003, 20:36 Post: 71412
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That's good to here. Most dealers that I have been to do not have the terrain that would be comparable to mine however I have test driven one without load and on flat ground and I like it. As a side note what ahout the occasional need to pull a single shank subsoiler in clay- loam soil?






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 12-16-2003, 20:41 Post: 71413
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If you are referring to the 4310 tractor that Art posted his experience with; that tractor was not functioning properly. A properly functioning ehydro will pull until you break traction with the tires. Barring a loss of traction the ehydro will pull several times its own weight. I have personally hooked up 4710's to CH-47 helicopters parked on the flight line and towed them by pulling and pushing them. These aircraft weighed anywhere from 28,000 to 50,000 pounds. The 4710's moved these aircraft effortlessly. I have pulled heavy logs with my 4410 and either got traction and moved them or just dug in but never ran out of pulling power.






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 12-16-2003, 20:44 Post: 71414
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Bill, You will run out of traction LONG before you ever run out of pulling power. The ehydro actually allows you to very gradually pull up against a heavy load without having the slip clutch or lug the engine down when you have LoadMatch engaged.






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 12-16-2003, 20:50 Post: 71415
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Thanks to all for your inputs. Its looking more and more like the eHydro is what I want.






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Sorry, I can't answer the question about the sub-soiler since I don't do much in the way of ground-engagement other than box scraping from time to time. I'm generally quite impressed with the pulling ability of my 4310 though. If a gear machine can do it I'm sure the eHydro wouldn't have a problem.

Chief, I don't think Art ever answered the question of whether LoadMatch was used in his test. Without a dealer there to point it out I doubt it was.






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Bill, sometimes a dealer will deliver a tractor to your place to allow you to try it out. Have you asked? Of course if you're a long away from the dealer that may not work.






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No, I have not asked but I plan on it. One problem is that the nearest dealer is about 25 miles away. If I get several positive responses back from owners or people who have 'real world' experiences, that should be sufficient proof.






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On the John Deere web site you can sign up for a demo. I am not sure if the demo is at the dealer or at your home though.






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