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 12-01-2005, 11:01 Post: 120181
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I thought I had posted this last week but am findin my lap top on dial up is not swift.

A lot of talk here is on horsepower. So my question is how many horsepower is a horse?
Does a 10 HP Briggs equal 10 grass eating horses?
How does HP compare from hyd., to electric to gas?
Is HP always the same as a foot or does it vary with what is being measured as does guage?






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 12-01-2005, 11:30 Post: 120189
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To start off:

In fourteen hundred and ninety-two
Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
Divide that son-of-a-gun by two
And that's how many watts there are in a horsepower.

(that would be 746)

But for the rest of it (much like with steel there are different horse powers (who would have thought?)) here is a good link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_power#Horsepower_.28hp.29






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The term horsepower originated with James Watt, who determined by experiment that a horse could do 33,000 foot-pounds of work a minute in drawing coal from a coal pit.

Found the above. It truely is based on how much work a horse could actually perform. It is considered a constant, meaning it doesn't change depending on situations. Meaning 1 hp of work is 1 hp of work despite what/who is doing the work.






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I need to send my wife to the store for a box of 0.2 HP bulbs for the shop.






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 12-01-2005, 21:11 Post: 120245
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To imagine that the bore times the stroke times times a multiplier is supposed to give you the horsepower of an engine!!!!!






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 12-01-2005, 21:42 Post: 120252
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I thought they used those little Shetland ponies in the coal mines.

I wonder how much horsepower one of those big Budweiser guys produce?

And furthermore, since Watt discovered Wattage,

and Ohm figured out Ohm's,

and Ampere found Amps,

and Voltaire did the Volt thing.......

So why don't we have Franklin-ectricity?

Huh?






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 12-02-2005, 06:57 Post: 120256
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I think Franklin-icity might have been more about sexual prowess than getting work done! However - he did push that wheelbarrow through Philadelphia with his newspapers every morning.






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If horsepower is horsepower then why does Northern Tool's catalog have a conversion formula and chart? It is amazing to me that a HP is not the same across electricity, hyd and gas engine.

Now to horses, you will not like this as I can not back it up, but it is my understanding what is suppose to be the average horse has about 12 horsepower. It was on some kind of horsepower at work show on tv. So I know it is true.

I do know that any one who has ever used horse or mule power will tell you a 3.5 horsepower gas engine is nothing compared to a single real horse. Much less 3.5 real horses. Remember the old stage coaches. Four and six horsepower? Wow!

If anyone has link to or has any idea on the Horsepower of the horse pass it own. Now, how much horsepower does an oxen have? I have no idea. But they pulled many a wago across this country. And what are oxen any way?






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Some internet stuff:

"You also might be interested in the very interesting letter to Nature on
the horsepower from a horse. ( Nature v.364 p195 15 July 1993 ), they
calculated the various types of horsepower from a horse. In 1925
Collins and Caine measured peak powers of 12-14.9 hp for just a
few seconds. Youatt in 1826 said a draught horse should pull 10%
of its body weight at a rate of 2.3-3 miles/hr for a 10 hour working day
to maintain health and vigour. Collins and Caine agree, and that figure
is very similar to the 1hp derived by Watt in the 1780s by determining
from millwrights that a horse could walk around a 24ft diameter
mill whell at average of 2.5 times/minute for a day's work. He assumed
the horse exerted a tractive effort of 180 pound force, yielding a power
estimate of 33,929 ft-lbf min. In his blotting and calculation book, this
number was rounded to 33,000, thus producing the more familiar
550 ft-lbf sec definition. He needed the power estimate so he could
sell his rotary steam engines to replace horse gins, as annual payment
was based on number of horses replaced."






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First things first, horsepower is a measure of work, endurance and torque are completely different animals, pardon the pun. Laughing out loud.

As horses vary, so does the work they can accomplish. The term "one horsepower" is sort of subjective when you are talking about actual horses doing work. I have done much harness work with our Belgians over the years, and I put one of our experienced single horses up against a 40hp 4X4 CUT to drag something any day of the week, especially in close quarters or tough terrian. A log is merely a little step for a horse, it's quite an obstacle for a tire.

An Ox is not a breed, it is a term, used to define any member of the bovine family trained and used for work, in practice though they are usually castrated bulls.

This brings up a question though, if more than one 'box' is 'boxes' how come more than one 'ox' is not 'oxes' it is 'oxen' ??

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