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 06-26-2003, 11:50 Post: 58373
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It's clear to me that the knowledge about guns here is vast. I have a question to pose, if you had to pick 3 guns for the "panic room" of the house 1 handgun, 1 rifle, 1 shotgun for both the wife and the husband what would they be? Keep in mind that there use would be in close quarters and could involve many assailants.






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 06-26-2003, 12:07 Post: 58374
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Colt Python, Ruger 223 mini-14, 12 ga pump. Reliability ease of use in High stress situation and massive firepower.
You MUST practice with the tools and KNOW them well. And practice. Did I mention PRACTICE? The nice thing about the Colt is the wife can use 38 special +p+ if she is intimidated by the recoil of the 357. The mini is powerful and must be regarded with care because of penetration but is easy to use. 12 ga will kick.






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.357 Mag (Colt Python or S&W Model 27 Revolver; 4" barrel)
12 gage Pump Shotgun (Remington 870)

Rifles are of marginal use in home defense, IMHO. The same money can be used to buy a second shotgun. But if you insist on a rifle, I would recommend a Winchester 94 or Marlin lever action rifle in 30-30.

I load my shotgun with #4 bird shot for the first two rounds in the magazine then there are two rounds of #1 buck followed by a rifled slug.

The .357 should use 125 gr HP ammo.






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 06-26-2003, 12:45 Post: 58376
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I'll agree with the 357 MAG but you really don't need an expensive one as the Python. The King Cobra would be just as good and you'd save some bucks. As far as a shotgun, one of those police (hi capacity) pump shotguns would give you plenty of fire power. I'd stay away from the rifle for home defense.

The wife may be a bit intimidated by these guns (noise/kick) but with a little practice, she would do fine.






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 06-26-2003, 14:13 Post: 58382
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Glock 40 S&W - Mod. 22 or 23
Colt AR or clone in .223
Shotgun - I'm not a fan of a scattergun. Anybody that thinks you don't have to aim one just hasn't shot one very much. Had a Mossburg 500 that handled fine.

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I agree with Billy that there are less expensive .357s that will work fine for you. I always like to recommend high quality guns but just about anything from any of the major manufacturers will shoot straight and will not wear out for the average homeowner.

I also like Glocks if you want an automatic. There are others that are equally good and perhaps better in some ways. The argument will always be how much quality do you need and how much are you willing to pay for it. If you don't shoot a lot, a full size Glock in 9mm or .40SW will fit most hands and doesn't recoil badly.

You do have to aim shotguns. Their main advantage is that they are a huge deterent even before the trigger is pulled. I recommend bird shot because you are less likely to accidently shoot your neighbor through your walls and it will destroy just about anything across the average room. You can then progressively advance to longer range and more lethal shells if you have to shoot more shots.

Rifle bullets will not be reliably stopped by drywall, plaster, or most sheathing on a house. This might not matter if you hit your target, but then again it might.

There is another thing to think about. The time to come to grips with the consequences of pointing a gun and pulling the trigger is now, not when you need it for the first time. When you need to use a gun, hesitation can kill you.

I can almost guarantee that this will be a long thread, because these opinions are almost religious in nature. Everyone has their favorite solutions and for the most part good reasons why they made their selections.






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 06-26-2003, 15:09 Post: 58385
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The closest I could come to home defense justification on the rifle would be a Winchester 9410. The scatter gun would be a modified remington 870 by one of the special ops companys that alter theese Like the wilson Combat. In reference to some of the less costly hand guns I have had so many defectives in the last few years I now try to get the best I can afford. I use a Kimber Custom Ultra CDP 2. My wife uses a smith Titanium .38+P with Laser grips. Milt sparks holsters, Cor-bon ammo.






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That's another thing, auto verses double action. In a live or die situation, you are most likely 'not' to make a mistake with a double action. I say a mistake, in an auto, as can't find the safety or accidently pull the trigger.

I know there's gonna be a lot of people that disagree with this but in a situation of this nature, emotions run high.






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I am not quite sure what you mean auto Vs Double action. You could probably debate longer than any of us will be around about SAO VS DAO Action Autos Vs Wheel guns. I this context though I am not sure I see the great difference. You could just as easily be pulling the trgger with the safety on with a shotgun. Practice and competence is the only real preperation for that, well other than experience which we hopefully never need but training, shooting and practice is critical. For concealed carry that would be another whole debate.






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a wheel gun can be emptyed just as fast as an auto but they don't hold as many shots. I keep a 870 with a 20 inch barrel around for home protection.






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