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2009-09-17          165739


I've been having to do a 90 mile round trip each day since buying my Toyota Tacoma and have been thinking of selling it and buying a beater truck and a sedan that gets 30+ mpg to save some gas money, but...

while reading a Consumer Reports in the doctors office there was a small blurb about Mahindra bringing a compact diesel truck to the US in early 2010.

It's about time.


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2009-09-18          165742


Ken, it would seem they might be behind planned schedule but that is not uncommon.

There is at least one imported small truck now in the US. Sells for about 10,000 but don't think you would want to use for a 90 mile per day routine. Have a client who sells them. Think they are made in China. To me they look like for local runs.

Just wondering, what kind of MPG do you get on your 90 mile round trip? I have a 2004 Tundra which is not a lot larger than the new Tacomma if any and for my routine driving get 17 something tank in tank out. Have you a cover over the bed to cut wind drag? ....

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2009-09-18          165743


A friend with one of their tractors likes it.

I've been looking for a 42-50" mower (front-mount to get under trees) with a small diesel (around 10HP) for years. One local chain of industrial/consumer products (Princess Auto) sells such engines, so they do exist. I'm willing to pay the extra because diesels last way longer, use less fuel, are simpler to maintain, and (in the case of off-road machinery) are easier to get road-tax-free fuel for. But nobody sells them.

Can't blame the truck makers -- they'll make whatever people will buy. The problem is that, unlike the professionals, the average person won't pay the diesel-engine surcharge. ....

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2009-09-18          165744


Ken, since you're already on the Wet Coast, why not look at some of the Japanese imports?

There's a company in Vancouver (there must be some in WA & OR too), I talked to them when I was out there early this month, that custom imports vehicles from Asia, new or used, any model you want, for you.

As a 'one off' end-user import they are exempt from meeting US standards.

They had all sorts of diesel Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols, M-B G-wagons, plus all the usual cars, in both right & left drive models too.

Might be worth looking into.

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2009-09-18          165746


KT, on the highway my Tacoma gets around 18mpg. It used to get 21 before the E10 mandate.

Murf, I'll have to check out the import of a small diesel truck. I've seen the occasional non-US vehicle here but don't know of an importer offhand. My biggest concern would be parts availability.

Maybe I could buy an old Tacoma with a bad engine and then pay someone to do a diesel conversion. I don't have the time to tackle a project like that myself. ....

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2009-09-18          165748


I think you'd have to do a little more than just swap engines, especially with a 4X4.

Most diesels run a different final gear ratio than gas trucks do. The diesel mill turns slower than a gas one so it needs to have a lower final gear set in order to keep the same top end as the gas truck.

As long as you stay with a top tier manufacturer parts aren't an really issue, both the manufacturer and specialized after-market shops can source them in most cases. The independent shop I uses services many Euro & Asia spec'd vehicles and doesn't seem to have a problem getting spare parts.

It's different up here, the spread between premium and regular is much wider, but I've shown time and again it's usually cheaper to drive a vehicle using premium than regular. This is even more so the case now that regular is E10 or E15 in most places.

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2009-09-18          165749


Before Ford had a diesel for their pickup's a friend of mine bought a new Ford conversion van, an E-250, I think. They loved the room, the ride, towing capacity, and all that but the thing drank gas like a fish.
He had a "Friend" who convinced him to let him take the gas engine out an install a diesel, sounded great, yep do the business. WRONG!!!
I don't remember what kind of a diesel engine it was, but everything kinda went to SXXX. Spent a ton having a conversion bell housing made, custom engine mounts, none of the accessory drives,( alternator, AC pump, radiator fan ) lined up. The Ford tranny shifted at the worng points, rear end gearing was wrong., on and on. The freinship was strained to say the least and the van got parked under a tree. Frank. ....

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2009-09-18          165750


OK, I'm convinced, no conversion!

Murf, I ran a three tanks of premium through the truck and saw no increase in mileage whatsoever. I thought three tanks would be enough to allow the engine computer to recalibrate - maybe not?

This truck runs against conventional wisdom when it comes to mileage anyway. When it was brand new it was getting 21-22 mpg highway. That mileage did not increase a bit after break-in, the only change was a drop to 18 when E10 came out and it had 20k miles on it by then.

Our Subaru didn't increase at all after break-in either. Maybe machining tolerances and lubricants have improved to the point where break-in doesn't make that much difference anymore.
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2009-09-18          165751


Ken I am surprised at that 18 mpg but understand the ethanol requirement. It does not seem to affect mine so much, but does affect my son in law with the new style Tundra (only pickup in our family now is Tundra and each one is different). Here Sunoco does not have ethanol in it's gas but then it is not a state requirement and also we are running rather flat ground.

As to gas it does not seem to improve my mileage to use premium gas, in my wife's Toyota Avalon it does some. I do find some variance between brands and Exxon as brand name is the worst for my mileage and has been for years. It calls for regular unless hot weather or heavy loaded or such, she just uses it period as that is her baby.

As I was about to hit to post this a little thought came to my mind...what kind of speeds are you running on your trip. My wife's car has computer with nice large display and when on the road I often set it for mileage just to see what I can get. To run 70 mph drops the gas mileage about 5 mpg over 60. Decide I liked 60 and 30 mpg more than savings 10 or so minutes for a two hour drive.

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2009-09-18          165754


OK, I'm not an engeneer or a chemest, so shoot me down if I'm wrong
We have an 08 Impalla, an 07 Silverado, and an 07 Trailblazer We also grow corn so I shouldn't even be saying this, but here goes. I think the computer controled fuel injected engines we have now only consume enought BTU's of energy from the fuel whether it is straight gasoline, having the most BTU's to any blend of gasoline and ethanol, having less BTU's per gallon to provide the amount of combustion pressures needed to propell the car, truck, or whatever. So however it works out on a cost per mile basis not a cost per gallon basis is what counts.
I do keep pretty good track of fuel mileage on all the units and yes straight gasoline does improve mileage, but it is not always the least cost per mile. Frank. ....

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2009-09-18          165757


Couple O'points
1) It usually does not pay to be a technology adopter on the front end of the curve, the version 2.2 is ALWAYS better. So hang around until small diesel engine trucks are routinely available. Talk to the iPhone folks about this, those who waited a year got a much better deal.

2) Off road diesel is duty free but not profit free, I have frequently found the price of off-road diesel at my agric co-op to be higher than that I could buy at the Speedway, in fact I no longer bother with the red stuff.

3) The notion that the backyard mechanic can on average do a better job of supplying fuel economy to a vehicle vs the original manufacturer is bogus, the vehicle market is fiercely competitive on fuel economy and manufacturers know that is one area they will be judged heavily on. They make their vehicles as fuel efficient as possible given the other competing factors the vehicle is judged upon (like acceleration for instance). ....

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2009-09-18          165758


Ann, as usual, has made some excellent points.

One I would like to clarify though. It doesn't matter where you buy your diesel fuel, if it's not used on the road in a licensed vehicle it's road tax-free, period.

Keep your receipts and send them in to your State Revenue people (usually accompanied by a form from them) and they'll send you a refund cheque.

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2009-09-18          165760


KT, I set the cruise control for 62mph and it stays there nearly the entire trip. Going to work at 4AM has the advantage of empty roads :)

Frank, it's hard to compare cost per mile when you don't have the option to compare straight gasoline vs. E10. All I know are gas prices are high and won't go much lower, mileage is low and isn't getting higher, and another 3-4 mpg would be nice. Today's ECUs can only do so much - they can't add more BTUs to the fuel and they have to maintain the optimum air-fuel ratio to ensure complete combustion with minimum emissions. It could be that optimum mileage is a lower priority for the programmer than low emissions or maximum power. It's all a compromise.

Ann, you bring up good points. To be an early adopter the truck would have to be beta or rev 1.0 but supposedly it's been available in other countries for a few years now. That said, it makes good sense to delay a purchase until some reviews of the US version come in and they get something of a dealer network going first.

Regarding mileage, generally I agree that the backyard mechanic cannot do better than the factory all things being equal. But since diesels are ~30% more efficient *and* there is no small diesel pickup available in the states it seems quite possible that a backyard mechanic could do better given time and money. Not that it would be cost effective. The easiest way to increase mileage would be to reduce weight. Who needs those pesky passenger seats anyway? ....

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2009-09-18          165763


Ken, two more questions if you don't mind: are you running synthetic oil and maybe even in your differentials? Also what about your tires? Some of those off road tires have to get worse mileage both tread wear wise and mileage wise than car tires. ....

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2009-09-18          165764


I'm running synthetic in the engine, dino in the diff. The tires are LT highway rib, not really off road.

The drop in mileage correlates directly to the date when Mobil started selling E10 in Oregon. I keep a mileage log and the date the mileage dropped 3mpg was after the first fill on E10. I always buy Mobil and I emailed them to confirm the date of conversion. ....

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2009-09-18          165766


Ken, is not Mobil and Exxon the same company today? I think I mentioned this earlier but for years I have used Exxon off and on and at times for weeks on end but it those years it never gave me as good of mileage as did some other brands even the no name ones. No idea why. I first noticed in with a 94 or so Dodge Dakota as it developed valve rattle and solved it with change of brand of gas. My father in law had same pickup and bought Exxon from same station and had same results. Just because of convenience my wife and I still will buy from there once in a while and if we run about two tanks we still notice a difference. Now it is Toyotas. When my wife had her Maxima don't think we noticed any issue with it but then it used premium. ....

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2009-09-19          165768


Talk about senior moments, I meant Chevron not Mobil. I couldn't tell you where a Mobil station is around here. ....

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2009-09-19          165770


Kenny as far as drag on a pickup bed, I've read a few engineering studies on leaving the tailgate up. It actually decreases drag and increases mileage. I forget how covering the bed fares.

Those Chinese 4x4 "trucks"--I rode in one. They're fine if you like to be VERY close to your passenger, like a very spartan interior, like road and engine noise and a bumpy ride. And being a cab-over I just don't feel safe. And they're not that cheap--$5-10K. They sure get looks though being a right-hand drive. I used to put my hands behind my head while my buddy drove. LOL Look ma', no hands! ....

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2009-09-19          165789


EW, I use to make a mostly open road round trip of about 250 miles. I got a little better mileage with tailgate down. The wind still whips some around the cab in the bed as pine straw will pile up behined the cab if memory is correct. This with short bed pickups. When I had a long wheel base it did get noticable better mileage with tailgate down. But the fiberglass or such tops level with the bed are suppose to give you something like 2 to 4 mpg as it cuts out the wind in the bed. ....

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2009-09-20          165792


Annnnd, it was uphill both ways too I'll bet LOL ....

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2009-09-30          166058


Murf, you mentioned earlier in the thread that you have often demonstrated that it is cheaper to run premium gas than regular. I'm curious what factors you considered in that analysis.

I ran a couple of tankfuls of premium through my Tacoma again. The truck seemed to run just a tiny bit stronger but the mileage actually dropped by about 0.5 mpg with no change in driving habits (still mostly highway driving with cruise set to 62). Comparisons were both of Chevron E10 regular vs. E10 "Supreme" from the same station. Premium is about 8% more expensive so it doesn't seem like a cost effective choice. Then again, when it comes to mileage nothing on this truck seems to follow conventional wisdom.

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2009-09-30          166059


KW, even under the strictest laboratory conditions it's impossible to determine mileage. Add to your conditions of tire rolling resistance, tire air pressure which varies with temp, moisture content (the air not yours LOL), ambient temp which affects everything from fluid viscosity to fuel mixture, wind drag, cross winds, wind velocity, quality and age of fuel even if from station, even the temp of the fuel. Even how much the vehicle weighs and its load--you, tools, and especially fuel content. We we did automotive testing we used a certified slab of steel that weighed 250 lb. for consistency (this wasn't for mileage but crash testing). ....

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2009-09-30          166060


Ken, you're right, nothing on that truck seems to fit conventional wisdom.

It could be that the Toyota ECM has been 'de-tuned' already to take into account for the E10 fuel.

I must say though that on none of the samples I took between here & Florida on several trips did I encounter any Ethanol in premium fuels. The way the legislation is worded the Ethanol content is a requirement that is based on a percentage of total fuel sold, so if they can get enough Ethanol into the system in regular and mid-grade they don't need to add it to premium and most aren't.

As for the economy of it, here's how it works (in my particular case), my SUV (mid-sized with a 5.0 liter V8) gets a pretty consistent 18 mpg on regular gas, on premium it gets a an also consistent 21 mpg on premium.

That's a 16.7% increase in mileage, as you pointed out, the difference in price per gallon is almost always under 10%. When I brew my own premium by using additives, the cost difference is about 2% per gallon, but I'm still getting Ethanol.

The part I find hard to believe though is that your truck actually got worse mileage on better fuel, it just doesn't make sense from any angle. If nothing else you were putting more BTU's (energy) per gallon through the truck, so it should have gone further on a gallon all things being equal.

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2009-09-30          166061


I'll have to double check the E10 in premium. The pump sticker says E10 on it but I ASSumed it was in all the fuels and not just in regular.

On the off chance that the ECU takes a long time to adjust to the new fuel I'll try it for another couple of tanks.

EW, sure it's possible to compute mileage, it's just not possible to do a pure apples-to-apples comparison. After all, it stands to reason that the driver gets lighter with each passing rest stop and heavier at each drive thru :)
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2009-09-30          166062


OK, you guys want to split hairs on the fuel mileage thing?
There use to be an old guy around town who was a bit wacko anyhow, but he wouldn't fill the gas tank in his car beyond half full. He said he wasn't going to burn gas to haul an extra ten gallons of gas around that he didn't need. I think he weighed around three hundred but he didn't leave part of himself at home, he took all of himself along. ....

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2009-09-30          166065


Ken, there's a down 'n' dirty way to get your trucks ECU to 'relearn' the new fuel.

Pull off your positive battery terminal, wait ~5 seconds, then touch it to the negative lead for a second. This will clear all stored data, including 'soft' error codes by discharging the memory. It will be then reset to factory defaults.

Just be sure you've got straight premium (not part regular) gas in the tank and fuel lines. Then drive it the way you normally drive. It may take a while for the truck to relearn your driving style and conditions, but it will happen.

Frank, we had a local fella up here was much the same way, except it was $20 gas and the tailgate always down. Everyone laughed about it because his wife probably weighed nearly what the truck did and she was always with him! LOL

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2009-09-30          166072


Ken, while you can compute mileage for a given set of factors and circumstances, because those factors change--and the will--you can't do and apples to apples comparison. And these mileage figures are averages over time and distance. The longer the distance the chances of apples to apples numbers being the same or close are greater. ....

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2009-09-30          166076


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Ken, while you can compute mileage for a given set of factors and circumstances, because those factors change--and the will--you can't do and apples to apples comparison. And these mileage figures are averages over time and distance. The longer the distance the chances of apples to apples numbers being the same or close are greater.


True. The standard deviation of my results is typically ~0.5 mpg so the numbers are all pretty close. It helps because I drive the same route every day and use cruise control. But if I had a big burger the night before I can count on the mileage going down a blip :) ....

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2009-09-30          166078


My wife's Toyot has mileage computer and it is very interesting to see what changes it. She picked up her sister one day and after driving I think less than a mile it dropped her mileage by a good bit. They both laughed at that for a while.

So Ken, is it possible there is an issue with the engine it self that could be causing the drop in mileage? Are you 100% sure the overdrive (auto correct) is working?
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2009-09-30          166081


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My wife's Toyot has mileage computer and it is very interesting to see what changes it. She picked up her sister one day and after driving I think less than a mile it dropped her mileage by a good bit. They both laughed at that for a while. So Ken, is it possible there is an issue with the engine it self that could be causing the drop in mileage? Are you 100% sure the overdrive (auto correct) is working?


I don't *know* that there isn't something wrong but the mileage is pretty typical for this truck. Others are reporting the same numbers. That said, I was going to have the door weatherstripping replaced so I'll ask them about the mileage and show them the log. ....

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