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 03-28-2010, 08:22 Post: 169584
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Guys, I thinking of buying a box blade for a 30hp 4wd tractor that weighs 3500 lbs. and agg. tires. I want a heavy duty model of some kind. I want it to push as well as pull. I will be leveling ground for a new pole barn for an covered dog runs for our kennel operation. What brand can you recommend? Not particulary concerned about price, just quality.






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 03-28-2010, 08:32 Post: 169585
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Your profile shows a B2150, which is a 24hp/1700# tractor. Do you have another tractor that fits the 30hp/3500# description? Cuz it makes a big difference in implement selection. And what is the outside rear wheel width? That too is a major consideration when selecting a boxblade.

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 03-28-2010, 08:40 Post: 169586
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Just purchased a TYM 30 hp tractor that I will be using this attatchment on.






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 03-28-2010, 09:55 Post: 169588
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Ok, what then is the rear track; outside to outside?

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 03-28-2010, 10:26 Post: 169591
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OAW is 53.5






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 03-28-2010, 12:28 Post: 169593
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Land Pride has been my brand of choice for quality for any three point equipment for a long time. Not the cheapest, but pretty rugged. I leave my box blade on almost all the time and find it one of the most usefull tools you can own. It is a good counterweight for the loader and in the winter I let the teeth all the way down to tear up the ice on the gravel driveway, I don't know if that is a recommended practice by Land Pride, but I've been doing it for years and nothing has broken yet.
I think they offer a hydraulic control for the teeth but I've never missed having it, it only takes a couple minutes and you don't adjust them that often.
The only caution I'll mention is when you said you want to push with the box blade. I do that sometimes and my box blade does habe a blade on the rear for pushing dirt but three point hitches really aren't meant to push with, there only function was meant to pull with, so don't over do the pushing part. Frank.






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 03-28-2010, 13:26 Post: 169596
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Thank you. In that case, limit your selection to five footers. It will cover your track, yet not stick out so far as to catch on stuff as you drive by.

I noted with concern your intent to "push" with this boxblade. Not a good idea, not big stuff anyway. Your new TYM is a tractor, not a bulldozer. The geometry of a BB is strengthened more towards pulling than it is pushing. But more importantly, the design of your three point hitch is almost exclusively for pulling. In most cases, using the boxblade as a bull dozer will more quickly damage the TPH than the BB itself. The backblade can in fact push SOME stuff, but it's intended more for finish work. You pull a heavy box full of material, dispensing it along the way. Then - if necessary - you go into reverse and use the backblade to smooth out what you just dropped.

That said, you want to look for one with a very sturdy A-frame. That's the part of the BB that hooks to the tractor. I strongly recommend both the sheet steel A-frame (as opposed to flat iron) and double bracket lower lift points. Not promoting any one brand, but the type shown in the photo satisfies both requirements. You can't see it, but there's an extra brace connecting the A-frame to the back plate.





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 03-28-2010, 14:31 Post: 169597
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Thanks to Gregg and Frank for the very usefull insight. Regarding pushing, I was watching a vidio or demonstration on how to use a BB. They would dig the dirt up going forward until the box got full and then slowly raise the BB to alow the dirt to disperse evenly and lastly go in reverse to smoth out the dirt a bit, just the high spots.Would that cause problems or should I avoid that all together?
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 03-28-2010, 15:33 Post: 169598
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I've been back-pushing snow and dirt with my scraper blade for 30 years. Damage? Only my neck. But it has been correctly stated that the implement and hitch are stronger pulling forward.

Box units are costly to ship, so whatever's in stock or made locally deserves a look.






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I was watching a vidio or demonstration on how to use a BB. They would dig the dirt up going forward until the box got full and then slowly raise the BB to alow the dirt to disperse evenly and lastly go in reverse to smoth out the dirt a bit, just the high spots.Would that cause problems or should I avoid that all together?

I wouldn't even call that pushing. Your word "dispense" is more to the point. When you originally said "push" - I envisioned another novice who thought he could slam the BB backwards into a pile of material and shove it around like an imitation bulldozer. What you describe should be no problem.

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