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 08-03-2009, 17:10 Post: 164603
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Have a JD 755 20 HP and am looking for a box scraper for minimum use in sandy soil and maintaining a regrind drive. How important is it to have it wider than the wheels? I may have a line on a used 4' box scraper, with my turf tires set narrow they are just over 4' wide. 54" would be just right but chances are not good for a used one.
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 08-03-2009, 17:38 Post: 164604
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The only problems I see not being wider than the tires is that you'll not be able to get along walls and fences close enough--unless you bias by adjustment the 3-pt's lower arms. To a lesser degree, biased or not you may end up driving with one side higher than the other as the wheels ride the windrow.

Given a choice wider is better for this application IMHO.

I use a King Kutter-brand 6' BB behind a 33 hp 4x4 with no problems. Traction and weight are key factors when using a BB. Without one or the other you'll just spin your wheels--literally and figuratively Laughing out loud.






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 08-03-2009, 17:48 Post: 164605
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If you will only be using it for drive way with no sides walls or such to it you should be fine. I do agree with Earthwrks on all his comments including the traction ones.






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 08-03-2009, 18:39 Post: 164610
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Thanks for the info. Is 5' out of the question?






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 08-03-2009, 20:58 Post: 164611
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I really wish I knew more about the tractor you have. But is 5 foot too wide, as long as your lift works fine you probably can work with it. I have a 27 hp 4 wheel drive and I use a 7 foot rake and 6 foot blade with it. Have to operate with hand on lift as very much load for that width and it will spin and is moving normally loose dirt or roots in loose dirt.

I wish I knew if it were to heavy for the tractor or if you had weights on it and if your lift is a full cat 1 or not. Also if you are working a drive way on a slope you can pull more going down hill than up hill as gravity will help.

If it were me and there was need to work to the outside of rear tires rather have the four foot and not have so much issue with load.

Just wondering, will you also be using this for snow moving?






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 08-03-2009, 21:20 Post: 164612
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Thanks, full cat 1 I believe. Don't think weight is a issue, rated at 785# 24" behind the "link ends". By the way, can you tell me just what point this is? Are the "links" what connect the lower arms to the hydraulic lift arms? Also my #70 loader has a 5' bucket.
Drive has slight hill at one point mostly flat. Won't be using with snow, have a 49" front mount blower.






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 08-03-2009, 22:19 Post: 164614
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Hettric,

I'd go with the 4 foot Box Blade. You'll have all kinds of trouble pulling a 5-footer filled with soil. The 4-foot model will make your day so much more enjoyable when working with the Box Blade all day long.

For driveway maintenance, you'll find that 4-footer might actually be better, as you won't be scraping the crown off the top. Make a pass down each side of the driveway with the 4-footer, and that should about do it.

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 08-03-2009, 23:17 Post: 164615
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I was faced with the same dilemma 4foot was too small and 6 foot too big.

Fortunately I found a used 54 inch box blade. Just right.






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Hettric, my CUT is rated for something like 1,800 lift at the 3-pt. Like I said I use a 6' BB. There has been several times like when spreading a full BB of crushed stone that I haven't been able to lift the BB --but the front end sure came off the ground--and that's even with 120 lb. of suitcase weights. It also happens when grading wet clay and the box is full.

You have a FEL so you may have he issues I did--although it may just not lift period. Wet dirt or stone weighs about 100 lb. per sq. ft--PLUS the weight of the implement--probably about 400 lb. guesstimated.






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Hettric,

As usual, you are getting a lot of good advice here.

You are probably already aware of all of this, but I have a 22 hp Kubota BX and it is considered a SCUT, Sub-Compact Utility Tractor. I am not familiar with your model JD, but I am assuming it is also a SCUT. The point is you need to be careful buying implements for your tractor. I'm sure you SCUT is a CAT 1 and that is not usually the issue. The problem with SCUT's is their lift height capacity. They have shorter lift arms and box blades made for SCUTS have lower height mold boards so when you lift the blade, it will clear most impediments. If you get a BB that is not specifically made for a SCUT, you will find that even fully lifted, it will drag when you go over pronounced bumps or dips. To be sure, I am not talking about lift capacity, but lift height restrictions.

This same issue applies to all implements you attach to your SCUT....be careful.

I have a 4' box blade and my 22hp SCUT handles it fine. Kubota specs a 54" BB for a 22 HP and I know Land Pride makes a model that will fit your SCUT. With my 48" Land Pride, I never bogged down while it was full of heavy clay and still scraping. If you need the extra width, go with the 54". I would also get a BB that scarifer teeth you can lower...very handy.

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