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 09-08-2007, 16:16 Post: 145508
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I was purusing the dealers today to finally pick my Kubota. Here's the two setups that are offered:

New 2350
54" standard deck
FEL
Rear blade 72" (6-way)
delivered & taxes
$13959

Used 2200 (700hours)
Original 54" deck
Minor rust on parts of deck and 3-point
Runs perfect, no leaks
New FEL installed
New rear blade 72" (6-way)
Delivered, taxes and full service
$11,130

I'd like to hear your opinions on the prices. The 2200 is in good shape. looks like it may have been outside for a season but that's it. I drive it and it is solid. Just a bit bummed about the minor rust and 700 hours compared to the new with a warranty. Like the old all metal vs the new plastic...






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 09-08-2007, 16:31 Post: 145509
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I always go with new due to warranty, and it looks better. And usually financing is much, much cheaper, unless you're paying cash.

Metal body work: I have never seen metal panels that don't rust or chip no matter how new or how well taken care of. And they're easily dented.

Plastic panels are extremely durable, forgiving when it comes denting, and well...they look cool. If they get broken they can be repaired using normal automotive fiberglass resin and paint (as can metal).






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 09-08-2007, 16:59 Post: 145511
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 Kubota BX2350 BX2200 Price help

There have been a few spirited debates here between metal and plastic composite panels. Personally, after a few years with composite panels I'm sold on it (and ten years ago I never would have thought that). Metal panels seem to look old after a year or two - dented, scratched and rust spots. The plastic composite panels on my little JD still look great in spite of crashing through brush all the time. So maybe that shouldn't be a big consideration in your decision. But, if you want metal you want metal.






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 09-08-2007, 19:42 Post: 145515
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What's mostly my concern is whether the price is fair and if $3K is worth the warranty and having a new tractor. From my research, there's little difference between the current 2350 and a 6 year old 2200. I do love metal but your points are all well taken. I just feel like everything is plastic these days. I'm just comming down from my anger with buying a $3K husky lawn tractor that lasted only 80 hrs. It seemed high quality. Should have just gone with a Kubota as my gut told me a year ago...






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 09-08-2007, 20:00 Post: 145517
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Don't let the Husky quality sour you (BTW Husky is like THE bottom of the quality ladder).

It's really not easy for anyone but you to decide what's a good deal and what's not. You know your market better than we. Tractor prices vary wildly between markets and sometimes for no apparent reason.

And you have to keep in mind that anytime you buy a used tractor from a dealer, most likley YOU are paying for lost profit on that one from the guy that traded it.

What I like to do is when the dealer tells me "oh sure it'll keep it's value" like when I bought my second new skid steer (stickered at $47,000 but they only gave me $20,000 for the other one on trade), the first thing I tell them is "Greeeeeat put THAT in writing for when I go to trade it in". They never do.






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 09-08-2007, 21:40 Post: 145521
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The majors, Blue/Orange/Green do hold their resale very well especially if they come from a good home, so putting the extra 3k in the new one wouldn't bother me too much especially considring the new warranty and all. I am from the old school on the plastic too, but I'll agree the metal does show it's age a lot quicker. A 700 hour tractor of blue/orange/green quiality that came from a good home is nearly a lifetime from being worn out. Nothing wrong with buying used long as you and the dealer agree where their responsibility comes off and your takes over on any warranty that may be offfered by them. It's just amatter of your comfort level with the machine you buy. Keep healthy. Frank.






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 09-09-2007, 19:53 Post: 145561
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Well I think I'm going to go with:

New 2350
54" standard deck
FEL
Rear blade 72" (6-way)
delivered & taxes
$13959

rather than the:

Used 2200 (700hours)
Original 54" deck
Minor rust on parts of deck and 3-point
Runs perfect, no leaks
New FEL installed
New rear blade 72" (6-way)
Delivered, taxes and full service
$11,130

I'm not so sure the dealer was right in suggesting a 72" rear blade. That sounds quite a bit large for this tractor and more than what I need so this may shave a few $ off. My thoughts are offering $500 less than his quote (corrected for a smaller blade) then ask that he throw in a landscaping rake.






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 09-09-2007, 21:32 Post: 145575
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I should have done some specification research prior.

At the risk of offending you and anyone thinking of buying one or wanting one...please read on.

This is a relatively smallish machine---for the price. I just did some research (see link below). Personally I'd go one size bigger for a few more dollars.

The 6' back blade I feel is too much for a small machine like that. That has to be a Category 1 attachment on a Cat. 0 machine isn't it? Mine would pull it okay but if it really loaded up, I doubt you have the traction or the weight to pull it. Same thing for a 6' landscape rake. (all my attachments are 6' and the hp is 33 & 4x4)

Speaking of Categories 1 v. 0, if the SCUT is a Cat.0 and you use it with a Cat. 1 attachment, is it under warranty if something breaks? Or wears prematurely?

After reading the review posts from the site link below, this is my supposition: the dealer is pretty smart. He realizes that a small machine like that WITH a FEL just doesn't have a enough what we call "ass" or weight to keep it from tipping or being tippy. He knows that most customers will bawk at having to buy a ballast box TOO so he makes you think he's "generous" and "give" you a blade that is way too big (a 60" blade may not be heavy enough). That big blade hanging off the back is more than just pure weight but it is leveraged weight.

Again, I'd read the post reviews about engine running too hot, things breaking, and tipping w/ a FEL before I plunk down money.

And believe me, there is nothing like realizing you could have had something bigger and well, better for just a few more dollars when you realize what you're "married to" just won't do the job---or it does the job but takes longer and break$ too.






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 09-09-2007, 22:39 Post: 145580
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The BX2350 is equipped with a cat 1 3pt per the spec sheet on the kubota web site.

Adding a FEL to it, I'm told the dealers fill the tires for proper ballast. In fact, this model is no different than the BX23 or 24 except for the BH.

Can you post the link you were referring to?

I believe all I really need is Kubota's 48" blade that's on their website. However, I can't tell if it can adjust its angle from side to side for clearing out gravel driveway drainage ditches... I believe this is called 6-way.

So if I understand your post, the thought is that both the 2350 and 2200 aren't up to snuff for a FEL and rear blade?

Thanks for the help! Just got approval from the "boss" to buy one. I need to hold back until I have ALL the facts straight!






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 09-09-2007, 23:45 Post: 145585
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Scotty,

Have you compared the price difference between the 2350 and the B7610?

You're getting a heck of a lot more tractor with the B7610, and it's a very nice machine. I'm sure you'd like it a whole lot more.

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