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 09-09-2004, 15:33 Post: 96057
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Any opinions on using diesel/heating oil (#2 fuel) vs. Kerosene (#1 fuel) in diesel engines?

- 50/50 mix been used by years up here in Maine when it's cold in heavy equip.
- K1 is much cleaner but more money.
- Diesel fuel has more oil which may lube pump, etc better but can gel and dirtier.

I have been using straight kero since that what I have for heating oil (hence convenient), but I'm wondering if it may harm my injection pump over long periods of time.






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 09-09-2004, 16:08 Post: 96064
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I'll leave the real diesel advice to the experts but I was surprised that on this website it says that mercedes recommends a mix of 30% gasoline in diesel in very cold climates.






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 09-09-2004, 20:57 Post: 96082
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Sometime back in the 70's I used to help my folks who ran a Mom and Pop sevice station in our home town. We had had a big snowstorm and the temps were below zero. A local farmer had a brand new 4430 John Deere with a loader on it, he was in town pushing snow. The tractor started to jell up on him so he drove it up to the gas pump and told me to put 5 gal of gas in the tank. I had never heard of this and almost begged him not to do that to a brand new tractor, but he insisted so I pumped the gas in. To my amazment the engine smoothed out, got back it's normal sound and power. he pushed snow the rest of the day and to my knowledge it ran for years after that without a problem. I still would have a hard time puting gas in the diesel tank, but it seemed to work for him. What ever you do please don't do this as a recommendation from me. Just a past experience. Frank.






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 09-10-2004, 04:15 Post: 96104
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There is scads of discussion in the archives. Bottom line is you will destroy your pump with straight kero. Pumps have to have the lubrication that comes with fuel oils.

I run a 50/50 blend heating oil (dyed off road) and kero during the winter. Straight fuel summer.






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 09-13-2004, 08:05 Post: 96329
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A few years back while visiting an Exxon distribution plant in Northern VA for work, they had a sign indicating their winter blend of 'on road' diesel (low sulfur) was 20% kero..






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 09-13-2004, 09:19 Post: 96335
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I disagree with some of the info. in the above link. Here is a link that I think gives a good break down of cetane and octane ratings as well as what and why various additves are blended into fuels.






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 09-13-2004, 10:05 Post: 96338
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If you put a drip of kero on one finger and a drip of diesel, and you rub it between your fingers you can feel the lubricity of the two, diesel clearly has more lube than the kero.

I have just finished my Fuel Rig and needed to fill it with thirty gallons. I wanted to fill it with off road diesel, as pump diesel is 2.08 - 1.98 still. Unfortunate the local fuel companies wouldn’t deliver any less that 150 gal, too much for me. Since my outdoor fuel tank 275 gal, for heating was about empty I had the fuel company bring me 150 of heating oil. So I filled the barrel with the 30 of fuel oil - what some seem to say is the same as off road – red. I will top the fuel oil for the house with kero before it gets to cold. I empty the tractors tank and refilled with the heating oil. The heating oil seams to be a little more aromatic than the pump diesel, and still had the lube to it.
The tractor started right up on it and ran normal. The only differences I noticed was the exhaust smoked a little bit longer and whiter until I went and mowed in full throttle, and warmed very thing up. Also the tractor was missing power while driving up a step hill and mowing through very thick stuff. In the past this kind of mowing didn’t loose as much power on pump diesel.

Conclusion... For anyone who has read this far... Laughing out loud

The heating fuel oil works find for normal requirements. It does not have the same bang for the buck as pump diesel. It would run a tractor great for using the wood splitter or simple mowing, generator tasks. I will add Cetane Boost {Power Service) 6 point gray bottle, and see how this does after I empty this tank full.







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 09-13-2004, 10:43 Post: 96341
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I suspect you will see a distinct increase in performance. I will be very interested to hear your observations.

My first tractor was a Deere 4100 Gear. It smoked all the time, clattered, and started hard on pump diesel. It all cleared up inside of 5 minutes when I added a clean-up dose of Red Line 85 Plus directly into the fuel tank. It was quite amazing to watch.






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 09-13-2004, 11:11 Post: 96344
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Until the most recent generation of trucks, Fords had the option of dual tanks, switchable from the cab 'on the fly'.

When hauling my boat between Ontario and Florida I used to ALWAYS keep one tank full off Canadian diesel fuel. One of the guys that drove alongside of me thought I was nuts when he first heard about it... until I started leaving him behind on the hills. He tried it later and found the same thing. The difference between the cheap (inexpensive) Georgia fuel and the stuff we brought from home could make as much as 10 mph difference on some hills.

Best of luck.






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Murf,

What is the cetane you guys have up there?






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