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 03-08-2004, 09:18 Post: 79227
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LOOKING FOR SOME SOLID OPINIONS. I JUST ORDERED A 4100 HST
W/A 410 61" LOADER AND A 48" BOX SCRAPER A MID MOUNT 60 " MOWER DECK AND I MATCH QUICK HITCH AND A REAR WORK LIGHT I ALSO ORDERD IT WITH R3 TURF TIRES FOR A WIDER STANCE. I HAVE A 22 DEGREE HILL IN THE FRONT YARD. WITH MY JD 445 I CAN MOW FROM SIDE TO SIDE. DO YOU THINK I CAN DO THE SAME WITH THE 4110 W R3 TIRES OR WILL I HAVE TO GO UP AND DOWN?
I THINK I GOT A GREAT DEAL BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK? WITH ALL THE ATTACHMENTS THIS TRACTOR COST ME $ 17550.OO LESS $ 6000.00
TRADE FOR MY 2001 445 GARDEN TRACTOR THIS IS MY 1ST COMPACT TRACTOR I HOPE I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE!






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 03-08-2004, 09:27 Post: 79228
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The 61" bucket is for snow and lightweight materials.
If you are going to "do dirt" I would back the bucket size down to the 53" version. The 61 inch bucket will scoop up 1100 pounds of wet soil if you are not careful and will put you on your nose.
See my Pic #2 for a demonstration of tractor (im)balance.

I think you will be ok on the slope with some rear wheel weights. Don't buy Deere's, they are WAY too much money.

You are buying one of the most reliable tractors on the market.






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 03-08-2004, 09:35 Post: 79229
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IDONT THINK I WILL USE THE LOADER WITHOUT THE BOX SCRAPER OR THE BALLAST BOX ATTACHED. THAT IS WHY MY DEALER RECOMMENDED THE 61" 410 LOADER HE TOLD ME TO FILL THA BALLAST BOX WITH CONCRETE TO EQUAL THE WEIGHT. DO YOU THINK THAT WILL WORK I AM A NOVICE AT THIS!






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THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT I JUST CALLED THE DEALER AND CHANGED THE ORDER TO A 53" BUCKET!






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 03-08-2004, 13:17 Post: 79242
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I am moving wet soil as we speak (taking a break). My 53 inch bucket, when filled, puts a bulge in my front turf tires and makes it clear that it is a LOAD.

For serious loader work on my 4100 (same critter as your 4110) I carried 1000-1100 pounds of ballast between the wheel weights and the three point hitch. The manual recommends even more than that. That machine had a 49" bucket.

The message in the picture is that the rear end is VERY light and take the ballast numbers seriously.






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 03-09-2004, 08:06 Post: 79298
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Who's wheel weight do you recommend , how heavy and how much should i spend"






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ROBOHA, I would think 22 degrees is a bit much if not right at or over the slope handling limits of the 4100; especially with the FEL installed (the added weight of the FEL higher up on the frame raises the CG). I would suggest you try mowing the hill without the FEL installed and gradually attempt more and more of the slope until you can safely cut parrallel on the slope. My experience and SOPSM tells me that is too much slope to mow on parrallel to the slope but you will have to try and see. I cut perpendicular on steep slopes with my 4410 and the most slope I think it can safely handle with the FEL installed and MMM is about 12 to 14 degrees. The SOPSM is pinging at this much slope. Maybe I am just a sissy but it is easy to roll these tractors with R-3 tires installed due to such a narrow wheel width.

EZ Weights has a good solution to reasonably priced wheel weights.

Sounds like you are ordering a new tractor so it would be a 4110 HST. Figure best case price is 25% off MSRP (very unlikely) to about a more expected 15% - 20% off MSRP. The trade is rarely a good deal, best to sell out right.

You may want to consider negotiating in an engine block heater, front and rear work lights or any other accessories you may want installed by the dealer now as they can haggle on the price vs. you paying full MSRP list at the parts counter later.

Good luck! Sounds like a nice set up.






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Deere recommends up to 180# per wheel, 360 total on the 4110. I have 150/300 which consists of 2 50# plates in back of two 25# plates on each side.

I can use 50's right next to the lug bolts due to my 16.5 inch rims. Your turfs may come with 15" rims. You may have to put a couple of 25's on first to provide clearance for the larger weights. You may find different manufacturers in your region with different dimensioned plates.

Garage sales are the best and cheapest place.... stick to 25# or larger plates. Next best are the used sporting goods stores where used plates are generally sold for about 35 cents a pound. Main-line sporting goods stores will run sales on new plates at 50 cents a pound.






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 03-09-2004, 19:47 Post: 79372
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Sorry for posting so late...I hope I'm not too late to talk you into a wider boxblade. The 48" boxblade will not cover the rear track of your 4110. I have a 60" for my 4110, and would have purchased a 54" if it would have been readily available. The 4110 will handle most work with the 60" boxblade, but it will stop it in its tracks if you take too big of a bite. The 54" is perfect as it covers the 52-53" width of the rear tires. Ditto on the ballast comments above. You can also buy plent of cheap used suitcase weights from a tractor boneyard and get the weight of a 54/60" rear box blade above 1,000 pounds. I would mow that hill up and down. The increased mass of your new tractor will make it prone to rear-end slide in even the slightest damp/wet grass condition. Take no chances with hill safety!






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it is too late to change the 48" box scraper! however the dealer did tell me that the tractor is wider but he also told me the larger box will would bog down the 4110 thats why i choosen the 48" box scraper. it sound like based on some of the responce the 4110 was a good choice i am getting excited waiting for my new toy!






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