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 09-08-2003, 06:43 Post: 63346
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Hi Guys,

I recently purchased a 4310 with a 430 loader and having been doing so much work with it...its been great! I have a snow blower on order, and am now considering a "soft" Curtis Cab for Maine winters. Are there any advantages or disadvantages I should be mulling over besides the obvious advantage of protection from blowing snow?

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 09-08-2003, 10:55 Post: 63381
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Defrosters and wipers are good features for snow blowing. If it's a 3ph blower, you got to see out the back too.






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 09-08-2003, 11:01 Post: 63382
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Nice cabs but pricey. Will they work with a 430 loader? Looking at the pictures of them on the Curtis web site, they don't show any pics with a loader and it looks like the cab sits where the loader mounts go. Anyone have any experience in this area?






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 09-08-2003, 11:24 Post: 63384
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I know several people who have 'soft' cabs on various machines, including ATV's.

The one single problem they all share is keeping the windows clear, if the cab is even slightly warmed, even just by the operator's breath & body heat the windows fog & or ice up. If you can get & keep enough air moving across them you can keep it to a minimum, but I've heard a near hurricane is required.

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Murf: I think I owe my window fogging insight to you from a few years back now that I think about it.

Chief: I recall something about cab and loader mounts sharing space awhile back. I can't recall which tractor or which cab. If I recall something I should be able to find it in the archives. I forget who it was that built a do-it-yourself hard cab. That one should be in the archives too. Looked like a good job from the pics.

Somebody talked about tapping a port into their water-pump flange to run a hot water heater. Most tractors should have enough electrical power to run a blower. That type of unit, including a water pump flange with an extra port on it are still in my Ford '10-series compact parts manual. Too bad they only went on European models.

I'm still blowing snow in the open and my face still ends up like a glacier when the wind is from the wrong direction. I need wipers on my glasses too. This winter, maybe a snowmobile helmet.






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 09-08-2003, 13:05 Post: 63393
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Since the lion's share of my business goes south for the winter, literally, we do a lot of snow removal in order to keep equipment & employees gainfully employed the year-round.

While most of our units that are used for snow removal are equipped with a cab, I do have one holdout (an ardent snowmobiler also) who will not work on a machine with a cab, he says it's not healthy, the logic escapes me.

He has always worked in a snowmobile suit and full-face helmet, the visor of the helmet is equipped with a tiny electric defogger unit. He claims, and probably rightly so, that his vision & hearing is far superior to that of an operator in a cab. All he does is sidewalks around a large shopping mall, so visibility is critical.

Some nights he looks like the Abominable Snowman, a very happy one at that, too.

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 09-08-2003, 19:11 Post: 63416
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Thanks guys,

The Curtis Cab can be installed with the loader & bucket still attached and in working order, but it will be removed and replaced by the snowblower. The cab will be come with an interior fan and heater and glass front with wipers. There will be a top dome emergency light and rear working light.

Again my question, will all of this have any effect on the operating ability of my 4310. Should I get the larger alternator and "stronger" battery? Any other things I should upgrade to?

Can anyone help me?

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 09-08-2003, 19:47 Post: 63418
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I've never even seen a Curtis Cab, but I'll throw out some ideas. Maybe something will stick Smile

Does Curtis have any recommendations for power requirements? Worst case I'd think you could add up the power requirements of all electrical components that you would be using simultaneously (lights, blowers, wipers, radio, heater, whatever) and see how they match up to the standard alternator output. My gut instinct is that you will need the bigger alternator, and I would probably upgrade as a matter of course, but you could always try it with the standard one and see how it goes. Heavier duty components can be installed later if you need them. Just be sure to test it all before the heavy snows hit.

Remember that my suggestions are probably worth exactly what you paid for them.






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A 35A rated alternator puts out about 420W max at 12V (w = a x v), but most systems would have a 30A main fuse so not much more than 300 watts could be used through the auxiliary circuits without risking blowing fuses due to surges.

A power rating probably is available from the cab manufacturer. I'd just take that rating and add the wattages of tractor mounted equipment such as lights, safety solenoids etc. There's really no way to avoid estimating the total continuous power consumption and comparing that to the alternator's rated output. Getting from wattage to amps is: watts = amps x volts. Using the charge voltage rather than a 12V battery voltage would be conservative. I'd keep in mind that running an alternator near max capacity for extended periods will shorten the life of a charging system. Power consumption that is a high percent of max alternator output will extend battery recharge times.






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Sorry guys, but I messed up with my post...my Curtis Cab will have a glass windshield with wipers, a fan to move the heat around from the heater installed. It will also ahve a dome light and rear working light. With all of these add-ons will I need a stronger alternator & battery? Will they make a difference? Will I lose HP?

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