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 08-26-2002, 20:53 Post: 41666
IRTEXN
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 JD4210 vs Kuby 3010

Gentlemen - It's down to the nut cuttin', I've gotta pick between the JD 4120 4WD w/ 430 FEL or a Kubota 3010 w/ 482 loader. Both with R4's. There is only $297 dif in my quotes, JD being higher. The only other attachments i plan to add will be a 5' rotary cutter (porbably Rhino)a box blade and a 60" tiller. My question is...is either tractor REALLY any better than the other or is just a metter of does one like green better than orange or visa versa? I'm new to this arena and would appreciate any insight from owners THANKX






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 08-26-2002, 20:54 Post: 41667
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Sorry , that's supposed to be JD 4210






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 08-26-2002, 23:04 Post: 41673
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I vote orange. It's a total Japanese quality product. The Deere has a great Yanmar engine but seems to still be plagued with niggling problems. You are gonna want this tractor where you can use it when the mood strikes you, not in the shop.






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 08-26-2002, 23:29 Post: 41674
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I'd have to go with the L3010. Physically its a bigger tractor. It will handle a bigger loader and 3pt implements. Bigger tires and overall weight spells better traction. And it seems to be one of the best and most popular models Kubota has come out with. Those two models are really not in the same frame size catagory, for the price the Kubota is overall abetter tractor.
However Myactual vote would be for a New Holland TC29D, TC30 or TC33D.






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 08-27-2002, 00:10 Post: 41675
IRTEXN
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Thanks Mark and TC29....After re-looking the specs, I seen where the 3010 is a bit bigger than the 4210....I guess the 4310 is actually closer. Anyway, I appreciate the input. My heart says green, but the wallet isleaning toward orange. TC, the Boomers are great machines. I fell in love with the TC35, but it's a tad much, size and price for what I need. Anybody else have any advise?






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 08-27-2002, 06:13 Post: 41680
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I think I'll write an intentionally overstated attitude just for perspective.

I think that they’re all good machines and that tractors come in about 5 PTO HP increments. One 25-hp compact does pretty much the same work in the same time as another. A 30-hp tractor does the same work but maybe a little faster if it can take wider implements.

Many people figure they're going to keep their tractors indefinitely. A price difference of a few hundred between two tractors divided over 20 years or more seems more like pocket change and shouldn't really be a reason not to get what is really wanted.

A lot if the specs stuff is more apparent than real. Lifting capacity isn't often challenged in on-going work and even when it is it usually slows you down rather than stops you cold. Many ratings also are defined from a manufacturers' views of liability and safety rather than what actually can be lifted. Ratings also are advertising and as such can take a lot of time sorting through and end up by just being confusing. The purpose of much advertising is to confuse.

Another approach is to sit on a tractor and drive it around the yard a bit. The best tractor for a person often just leaps out and grabs you. It's an 'AHH THIS IS THE ONE' experience. That experience has as much to do with how it feels, is it comfortable, are the controls intuitive and is the dealer liked or at least inspires confidence as with the specs?

Analyzing specs can just get in the way of the AHH experience. I'd keep in mind that you're probably going to live with the tractor for a long time. It might be better for the purchase to be more like finding a spouse and less like buying a mutual fund. The thing about having a tractor is that you should REALLY LIKE IT A LOT.






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 08-27-2002, 07:46 Post: 41684
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I think by now you see they are not in the same class. The 3010 is 32 hp & the 4210 is about 26 hp. Smaller tires on the 4210 also. My advise is to eventually tell the salesperson to take a powder and spend some time on whatever you are thinking of buying. Actually try things out, loader, seat, controls. Sit there and get comfortable and see if it feels right for you. Do the controls fit you and operate well for you. As far as actual specs, as long as you have come this far my opinion is nothing less then 3010 or 4310. Mine is a 4400. When I was buying the sales guy told me the 4200 HST ( that was where I started ) was a little weak on hills. Good luck.






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 08-27-2002, 08:17 Post: 41685
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Hey Tex,

I recomend following TomG's advice, but do not forget to know your Dealer either. Service after the sale is an often forgotten issue.

One more thing, The John Deere 430 loader will not fit a 4210. It will however fit a 4310. The 4210 will require a 420 loader.

Get on the seats and drive, get on and off several times because you will do this in real life quite frequently. Mount and dismount the loader, see which is easiest and fastest.

Check the service points, which model is it easiest to do routine maint.

As a dealer, I tend to steer inexpierienced oporators to models that are somewhat weak in HP. This is kinda a saftey factor. Latter in years you can get a beast, but you need to learn to walk before you can run. So, resale value is an issue, blue, green , or orange will be ok in that respect.

Lastly, get rear ballast, and have it available when the tractor is delivered. I don't care if you buy the ballast box from the dealer, or make your own, just get it. It's safer that way.






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 08-27-2002, 10:04 Post: 41687
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I have a 3010 with R4s. I bought a 70 inch wide tiller so that it would be wider than the rear tires. The 3010 with R4 is 64 inches wide. The 60 inch tiller might throw enough dirt to cover the tread marks, but wouldn't really work up all the compacted soil left by the tread.






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 08-27-2002, 11:36 Post: 41690
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I have a 4200 Deere, and I would have to agree it is underpowered if you are going to do much roading. It does not take much of a hill at all to bog it down. Other than that, the power is fine for mowing and such.






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