tractorpoint.com - The leader in Tractors from Compacts, to Utility, to Full Size Tractors! Kubota, John Deere, New Holland, Kioti, Case/IH, and Others. Keywords=Compact Tractor, Kubota Tractors,  Kioti Tractors, JD, John Deere Tractors, New Holland, Case Boomer, Used Tractors, Classifieds, Dealer Directory, Tractor Pictures / Images
  parts   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


Forums > Active Threads > Popular Compact Tractors > Kubota Tractors

Post Message Kubota Tractors


 Go Bottom
____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
dorite
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 10 Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster

2009-08-18          165065


I have a B7800 with a LA402 FEL.
I want to lift the concrete cover of my well and have been trying to figure out how to attached a hook or an eyebolt to the top of the FEL. The top bar is rolled and does not appear to be substantial enough to support a hook or an eyebolt without some backing. Any suggestions?

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-18          165066


A lot of folks have chain hooks welded to the top of their buckets. It's recommended that some gusseting be welded inside the bucket in the rolled area directly under the hooks to reinforce the area. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
cutter
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 1305 The South Shore of Lake Ontario, New York
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-18          165067


I welded the chain hooks with backing plates, no gussets, but when I lift I use both hooks to help spread the load. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
earthwrks
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3853 Home Office in Flat Rock, Michigan
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-18          165070


If your bucket's cutting edge has holes in it, use the center hole to attach a chain either by inserting the hook (if it is an open type) or an eyebolt or simply bolt the chain to the bucket. I wouldn't on yours (but have on mine) dropped a Grade 8 bolt stacked with washers into the 1/2" hole on my skid steer's bucket an used it as traler hitch ball to move tralers around the yard (my trailers have a lot of tongue weight so there is no worry about them coming off).

In a pinch I've tilted my bucket back and hooked the chain onto the cutting edge--the only worry there is if you a have the bucket raised and you have not a lot of machine weight, if the chain slips to one side or the other you WILL flip the machine--got the T-shirt and a missing chunk of the seat cushion. LOL If you're ever in a situation where you feel you're ready to overturn--just drop the loader arms as fast as you can to counteract the momentum and center of gravity.

Another option is use the 3-pt hitch to pick up that cover.

....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
ejkessler
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 95 Northern CT
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster

2009-08-19          165095


I have had hooks welded on all my buckets, each side and middle. Each time there was a section of angle iron welded the length of the top edge of the bucket to weld the hooks to properly reinforce or as previously mentioned gusset the bucket. Do it right the first time and you won't regret it later. You can go broke saving money. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 7199 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-19          165109


The big problem you will have in reality is not where to put the hooks, but what and how they will lift.

First off, capacity period, the information I have says a B7800 with LA402 loader is 1,060 pounds at the bucket pivot pins, and 760 pounds at the bucket center at full lift height. I suspect in the real world, the FEL wouldn't lift 500 pounds. "Specifications" are usually written based on hypotheticals such as peak pump output times, peak horsepower, times blah, blah, blah, not 'real world' actual measurements.

The second problem is tractor design, the front axle pivots. If the load is not exactly centered the relatively narrow tractor will tend to go over sideways as more is lifted and less load remains on the fixed rear axle.

The far better way IMHO to lift anything like that is using a "gin pole" on the 3pth.

Best of luck. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
ejkessler
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 95 Northern CT
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster

2009-08-19          165110


I think Murf has a good point. Even if your bucket is capable of its specified lifting capacity you need to be vary careful and aware of its balancing and stability issues with lifting a lot of weight forward. I have a L3540 which weighs quite a bit more than a 7800 and when doing that kind of lifting I either will make sure my BH is attached or an implement weighing at least 500# or more is attached to the 3 pt. I use a 3 pt fork lift instead of loader forks for the reason Murf states. Also using only the middle hook on heavy lifts helps keep the load centered. Only use the hooks on each side when you need things to keep from flopping around, but not to secure a heavy load. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
auerbach
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2168 West of Toronto
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-19          165112


Jack up one side of the cover. Scoop the bucket into the gap. Attach an L-hook to the far side of the cover and make fast to the top of the bucket so the cover won't fall away. Then just lift.

Otherwise the problem is not just attaching to the bucket but also to the cover (unless you have four eye-bolts in it already). ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


____________________________________________________________________________________
Lifting with the FEL on a B7800

View my Photos
Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 7199 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster  View my Photos  Pics

2009-08-19          165113


Quote:
Originally Posted by auerbach | view 165112
Jack up one side of the cover. Scoop the bucket into the gap. Attach an L-hook to the far side of the cover and make fast to the top of the bucket so the cover won't fall away. Then just lift.


Good plan, but it won't work.

A 36" well tile lid weighs over 600 pounds, 613 in the case of the company we use.

A B7800 with a LA402 FEL has a rated lift capacity 1,060 pounds at the pins, and 760 pounds at the "middle of bucket". That's a ~30% decrease from the pins to the middle of the bucket. If you extend that out another foot or more, and decrease by another (only) 30% you're down to ~530 pounds.

Now you have a 'lift rating' of ~85% of what you need to lift.

And that's assuming the machine can actually lift what it's 'rated' for, which IMHO is never going to happen.

Best of luck. ....

Reply to | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo



Return to index    Go Top


Share This