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belgiant
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2007-12-06          149015


I need to put chains on a L35 for plowing and there is not enough clearance to get by the backhoe framework. Any suggestions? Anyone know where to find a spacer to move the rims out about 1" or so?



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earthwrks
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2007-12-06          149016


Can you turn the wheels around to gain the space?

There are other types of "chain" out there that are made of cable which should have a tighter profile. ....


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2007-12-06          149021


Thought of that. The rims are not made to reverse, they're out as far as they'll go, so switching sides won't help. As for cable, I've only seen that type for a car tire and don't know that they would hold up well plowing snow. Thanks though. ....


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2007-12-06          149023


Have you tried it without the chains?

I plow commercially with 30-40hp Kubota L series machines on R4's with no chains, with proper ballast (like a B/H) you should be fine unless it's really icey.

I have a 7.5' Meyers pickup truck plow in place of the bucket on my own personal L4310 and have no problem pushing a huge pile of snow with it. It sits on R4's also.

Best of luck. ....


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2007-12-06          149024


Another suggestion is onspot tire chains....don't know the exact cost? Look at the demo video on www.tirechains.com
and on the far left side of column check out the onspot type tire chains. Really great idea that someone could rig up themselves and so easy. The chain only goes under the point of contact on the tire, never up and around like all the chains, really great idea! ....


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2007-12-06          149025


Sorry....click on automatic tire chains on the far left side at the bottom of site. then it will show the onspot tire chains. ....


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2007-12-06          149027


Now THAT is cool! ....


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2007-12-06          149030


I tend to agree with Murf. I have owned two tractors with the industrial tires and they are great in the snow as long as you have the proper ballast as he mentioned.

One thing though, I do tend to go places that have gotten me into trouble with that rear mounted blower. The front bucket has saved me in that I can lift and push to free myself. ....


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2007-12-07          149039


Thanks for the tips. I've plowed without chains and done ok but once it gets glazed over, and my driveway is on a hill, I can not get anywhere. The front bucket has helped me get backed up, but I've had enuogh close calls to want the chains. I'll keep looking, I know I'm not the only one with this problem. ....


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2007-12-07          149040


Don't know if this applies to the Kubota L series tractor but on my Kubota B7610 the rear tread width is controlled by moving the wheel assembly to different pre drilled pin positions on the the rear drive shaft, I think there are 3 holes that provide for about 1 inch between each position. ....


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2007-12-07          149043


One option you may not have considered yet is the little screw in studs they use for ice racing and such.

They are very short with really deep, sharp threads and a very sharp point, sort of like sheet metal screws. The head is a hex shape like a bolt, but the edges are raised to make very sharp points.

A few of those in the thickest part of the tread bar and you could climb a wall.

Best of luck. ....


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2007-12-07          149063


Those screws Murf speaks about are very effective. I used them on high-powered racing ATV's on ice--front and back. I have used regular sheet metal screws and they do work but they don't last nearly as long if you have to traverse pavement. The genuine screws' heads are deeply cupped which gives them bite on all sides of the heads. They're hardened and cadmium plated to resist rusting. Using a cordless screwgun, they can be installed in about a second each, and removed just as easily. They cost about $25 for a bag of 250---or did the last time I bought them. ....


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2007-12-08          149083


Those Onspot chains are neat but they cost a couple thousand, and need professional-quality installation and onboard compressed air. They're designed for commercial vehicles that need an automatic chain on-off.

If chain types won't fit you can look at cable types. ....


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2007-12-08          149096


The on spots are cool, but $2000 is pretty steep. It is my understanding that the system comes with the comprssor- but I could be wrong about that.

belgiant , have you thought about making your own chains? Where you are having clearence problems you could substitute smaller links or cable. There are a lot of advantages to making your own- you can make them as mean as you need them to be, you can add or subtract traction, you can do basically whatever you want as long as you don't run out of shackles. They don't have to be DOT approved, and if you break one, big whoop. ....


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2007-12-10          149156


Can you use the screws on R4's? ....


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Murf
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2007-12-10          149163


You can use tire screws on anything with a deep enough tread that they wont go right through.

I've used them on R4's and even turfs quite successfully.

Best of luck. ....


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2007-12-10          149171


Great, have you ever used the sheet metal screws that are used to attatch a metal roof? I have lots of them left over from a roofing job. ....


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2007-12-10          149173


Now here is a studded tire that will handle ICE !!!!! ....

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Murf
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2007-12-10          149174


Never used anything but the real McCoy.....

I was told by our tire people that sheet metal screws are a double problem, they wear out really fast, and they tear out because the threads aren't aggressive enough, that leaves a stripped hole that is useless for the right screws later.

I can't find a picture right now, but there are both all aircraft cable, and combination chain / aircraft cable tire chains that would solve your problem too.

Heck, I have a neighbour up at the lake that uses 'tire chains' made from heavy rope. They work just fine.

Best of luck. ....


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2007-12-10          149197


Assuming you have a half-inch of clearance, find a chain firm that will custom-make. Regular chain on the outside and the rolling surface, but cable on the inside. ....


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