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 | Rookie36
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2005-12-13 120965
I am embarrassed I do know the answer to this. I am in the process of buy a JD790 from an individual. He's telling there is no Title on farm tractors like this. Is this true? Thank you in advance for your input.
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| Rookie36
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2005-12-13 120966
I DO NOT know the answer. Sorry for any confusion. ....
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 | ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY 
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2005-12-13 120968
In New York State this is true. This is not a motor vehicle. I tried to get farm plates for my tractor and went to the Dept of Motor Vehicles. I asked for farm plates - they first asked for me to fill a form which required a title. After some confusion I was routed to someone with experience. There is no title for tractors, no farm plates are issued. They are only issued for fast moving vehicles like trucks used on farms. ....
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 | StephenR
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 230 New Tripoli, Pa.
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2005-12-13 120979
There are no titles issued for tractors, but there are serial numbers. If there is a concern, run the serial numbers through the local police department. ....
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Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada 
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2005-12-13 120982
In Canada there is a second parallele system run by the Federal Governement.
It is intended to track and prove ownership of "non vehicular items of real property" being exported temporarily to another country. The concept is sold as a way to prove what you had when you left the country. It used by the Government for MANY other uses though, and while a little "big brother'ish" it serves a very usefull function to the owner as well. The certificate issued, and the record created, is supposed to serve as proof of export.
In our case, the way it works is, as we cross the border heading to the US with equipment, we show it to Canadian & US Customs as we cross the border, and again coming back into the country on the way home. That way we can prove it is Canadian equipment and there is no taxes or duties owning on it, as there would be if purchased in the US while we were away.
The reality of it is, the US also knows if we leave the country without it. IE an undeclared import.
The bonus from our point of view though, is the Government has a permanent record of who owns a particular machine. We have had several instances where we got a call from Customs saying there was somebody leaving the country with a tractor shown as belonging to us, upon checking our records we found it had been sold off. Customs amended the record and sent him along on his merry way.
The database is searchable by all law enforcment agencies.
I'm sure the US Customs would have the same type of system.
Best of luck. ....
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1490 south central pa 
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2005-12-13 120991
I had an instance once where we transfer a piece of equipment to a Canadian dealer. I happened to be off that day, well who ever was doing my job messed up and put the wrong piece on the truck. By the time I got to work the next day the damage was done. They got to the border and were not aloud to enter. Wrong serial number. They had to turn around and come back. ....
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2005-12-14 121080
I don't think they do Murf, we'd better keep tis type of knowledge quiet or we will have to have a muti billion dollar study for ten years to study the feasablity of implementing it. It does seem strange they can find the barn that one cow came from but can't find 500,000 illegal immigrants. ....
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 463 Troy OH
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2005-12-15 121112
Big difference: The illegal immigrants DON'T WANT to be found, the cow / barn does not care. ....
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2005-12-15 121119
Hmmmmm, I see, now I was thinking it's more likely that the business owners who hire wet-backs donate more to political parties than do the farmers.
Or as a cynical, screwed over Canuck farmer, I figure that they decided getting rid of the illegal labour would hurt the economy, as opposed to illegally getting rid of the competition and boosting the economy.
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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5275 South Carolina
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2005-12-15 121125
Our state does not have titles for farm tractors either.
As to the illegals...really makes you wonder...that goes for both parties. As to the millions for the study, again, who said a politician had common sense?
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| barryinmn
Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3 Minnesota
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2005-12-15 121130
If the tractor has a loan on it the dealer or lein holder typically files a UCC form with the owners county recorders office.
Protect yourself & check with the county. No need to get stuck buying the tractor twice!! JD dealer may be able to run the SN for JD lein, no help if a local bank or CU has a loan out on it. Heard of a case where the seller moved counties & sold a tractor so local search was clear. New buyer went to a dealer for parts a year later & his tractor SN showed up on a repo list. If this is a first owner the selling dealer may have purchase records as well as maintenance history.
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2005-12-15 121134
I really don't know if this is true or not. I was told by someone a few years ago tht if you unknowingly buy something stolen at a public auction you are in the clear. If someone knows the real scoop on this, jump in and let us know. I do know that serial number plates are stolen from later model classic tractors then put on older models in an attempt to fake some more desireable models. I've been told that Super H and Super M Farmall serial plates are stolen on a regular basis. Frank. ....
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| Art White
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2005-12-15 121141
Back in the 80's IH was handing out certifacates of origin but that went away with Case-IH and there has been nothing since for a registration. The county court house normally has records of all UCC- forms. ....
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