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 03-31-2005, 17:13 Post: 109203
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I am wondering if anyone has used both of these models and can comment on one vs the other as regards power. I have ordered the 47 (actually the now 447) and am concerned that I should have gone w/ the 48. I am not planning to do anything too demanding, just some drainage work and the occassional stump removal. Will I be ok with the 47 or should I change my order. Thanks (once again)






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 03-31-2005, 17:30 Post: 109205
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 JD47 vs 48 backhoe question

If the tractor you have will accommodate a 48/448 get it.
I have the 48 and love it, My neighbor had a 4200 with a 47 hoe and had many problems trying to remove stumps. I had tried it a few times and it doesn't have anywhere near the power of the 48.

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 03-31-2005, 18:25 Post: 109208
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Your tractors hydraulic capability has a lot to do with how much power the backhoe has. I have a 47 and stump with it and it does everything I need. You do NOT want to go too big for your tractor. My JD dealer will sell a 48 hoe on the mid size JD compacts but they charge a few hundred extra to reinforce those areas on the tractor that are prone to breakage. I went with the hoe that will be less likely to overstress the machine and have no complaints whatsoever.






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 03-31-2005, 19:12 Post: 109215
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This backhoe will be mounted on a JD4310.






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 03-31-2005, 20:57 Post: 109222
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 JD47 vs 48 backhoe question

Run, do not walk, back to the dealer and change the order to the 48. I just went through this and did exactly the same thing...ordered the 447 and then started second guessing myself. I changed the order for the wrong reason...aesthetics. I have the old style loader (430) and wanted the hoe that matched. The 300CX FEL and 447 BH are all curvy and zoomy looking. The 430 and 48 are all no nonsense straight lines. When I picked my tractor up, there was a 447 on a 4310 right next to my 4410/48. I could not believe how much the 447 looked like a toy and how much the 48 looked like a real backhoe. I have been pulling coffee table sized rocks out of my yard in doing some trenching...I would pay to see a 447 tackle the same rocks.

On a side note, I am absolutely amazed at how easy the hoe is to take off and put on. I did it the first time in about 5 minutes with help. After about 4 off and on cycles, I can now do it in about a minute and a half by myself.

As to not over-taxing your tractor, if JD says a 4310 can handle a 48, I would believe them. The way the frame mount bolts to the machine, I can't imagine doing any damage to the tractor.






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 03-31-2005, 22:24 Post: 109232
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Talk to a JD dealer who has seen the damage with the 48 hoe vs. the 47. Talk to the guys in the shop, not just the salesman. Ask them about fatigued rim flanges and wallowed out holes. My dealer has seen and fixed these problems, and that is why they won't mount a 48 hoe on a 4310 without welding on additional support. They don't do that on the larger framed machines. Maybe they are being conservative - I'd be interested in what other dealers say about it.






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 08-31-2005, 12:34 Post: 115716
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I'll let you know what my dealer says. I'll be visiting him this weekend. Based on what I've read so far, I'm leaning towards the 48 vs the 447. All the JD literature I've read indicates the 48 can be mounted on a 4310. I haven't found any caveats indicating modifications were necessary. Most manufacturers will not recommend combinations that could cause an incompatibility issue with standard stock items.






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Manager to engineer: "Will it work?"
Engineer: "It will fit but we haven't done load and stress calculations on all the components and it hasn't been field tested"
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 08-31-2005, 14:39 Post: 115725
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 JD47 vs 48 backhoe question

I have the new 448 Backhoe which I believe replaces the 48. I works great with my 4520. I have not used any others to compare. Also the 448 series will dig a foot deeper than the 447.






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I couldn't wait until the weekend to see my JD dealer, so I gave him a call. He didn't even recommend the JD BH. He preferred a 3rd party Taylorway(sp?) brand (6 1/2' reach 18" bucket). Mentioned he liked the PTO hydraulic pump on the Taylorway vs the JD set up. Anyone have any comments on the Taylorway?






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