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 09-05-2005, 17:39 Post: 115953
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 Snow removal with back blade

When removing snow from driveways with a (presumably) angled back blade, is it best to go forward or in reverse. Also, is it best to have the blade forward, or reversed? Thanks. Snow coming...
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 09-05-2005, 19:47 Post: 115957
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 Snow removal with back blade

I did it with a rear blade on my bx23. I had problems with the one corner of the blade being lower than the other when I tried to angle it, so I plowed with it straight (& facing forward). Deeper drifts I moved with my FEL. I am no expert,so I'm sure others have better advice.






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 09-05-2005, 21:08 Post: 115959
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 Snow removal with back blade

It depends on what surface you are plowing. If it is pavement of some sort, using it in its designed direction is best, whether blade if facing forward or backward. Usually backing up is best so you don't pack the snow down first. On gravel or grass, using the blades back side is often better so you don't rip the surface up. A good blade will offer tilt on the blade as well as angle and sometimes offset. If you pull the pin out of the tilt altogether, the blade will follow the contour of the ground and not dig in one corner. This has worked great for me. The only problem is in the rare instance one side of the blade gets a chunk of snow stuck on and then sags down when you lift without the tilt pin in.






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 09-06-2005, 09:54 Post: 115980
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 Snow removal with back blade

The MOST important point to bear in mind about using a rear blade for snow is that it is NOT a 'snow plow'.

A snow plow always has some sort of spring-trip mechanism that gives away if the blade hits something harder than the plow can safely move.

A rear blade has no such break-away type safety protection.

If you hit something as inocous as a lump of frozen ground you could cause some real damage to the machine, and or the operator. The 3pth is designed to take a static load in a pulling manner, a sudden shock load, especially in reverse can cause major damage to the lift arms and possibly the casting of the rear end as well.

The operator, while turned around, could get at the least, a VERY sore neck if an object was hit and the machine stopped suddenly. I have seen people get whip-lash from exactly this. If the operator struck the ROPS it could be a serious injury.

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 09-06-2005, 12:09 Post: 115986
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 Snow removal with back blade

Murf makes some serious points about safety that need to be considered. Regardless of what is used to clear snow, you need to know what is beneath the surface.

I use a loader and a 6 ft rear blade to clear snow. I use the loader between by shop and garage because that is where the snow drifts are. That way my tractor isn't having to clear through the driftes first. It also allows me to tilt the bucket lip ever so slightly up so the front edge doesn't dig in. I still move gravel, and leave some snow, but better than moving a pile of gravel come spring.

The rear blade I drag behind me meaning I drive over the snow first. But I use it on the main drive which is exposed to wind, doesn't drift up and isn't deep with snow. But I also take the top adjustable link of the 3-point and shorten it as much as possible so the rear blade is angled forward so it doesn't want to dig in. My two lower 3-pt arms are adjustable so I can control the tilt of the blade when it's set at a 45 degree angle. I set this before the snow flys in my shop on the concrete so it's easy to see how level it is.

Finally, I know my drive. I know what to watch for and where those hidden demons are that Murf points out. Knowledge is power and safety!! I also have a rear facing light that shines over the blade. I get 2 things from this. 1 is I can see what I'm blading. 2 is I have light to make adjustments when it's dark at 5:30 am and it's friggin cold so I want to be done quickly.






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 09-06-2005, 19:51 Post: 116001
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 Snow removal with back blade

It's easiest to learn by pulling the snow. Pushing unless with a short top link and skid shoes is to uncontrolable. The blade does change with the angle to the ground. Your side link adjustment will comensate for the different adjustments of fore and aft. You should have about a 6' blade minimum to do well when angled.






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 09-06-2005, 22:24 Post: 116011
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 Snow removal with back blade

What ever you decide to do.... do it real slow.

My front blade has a spring that is so weak that it not really functional. So I pin it in place and compensate by plowing snow at less than a walking pace.






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 09-07-2005, 08:33 Post: 116020
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 Snow removal with back blade

Now here's the dumb question of the day .......

Why not just increase the pre-load on the spring or replace it with a stiffer spring?






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 09-07-2005, 08:55 Post: 116022
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There is no load adjustment on the thing, just two holes to snap the spring into....

As for replacing it, well I just can't all my poop in one sock lately. The bigger issue is that despite what Deere sez, the thing is too small for the 4115.

At extreme angles it dumps snow under the outer edge of the rear tires. I rigged up a wider replacement blade late last winter and haven't had time to work out all the finer details..... like the springy thing.

I might take a picture of it and send it to you Murf. You might have some ideas on how to rig it up. But first I have got to get this roofing crew out of my life. They have been disrupting things for a solid month.






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 Snow removal with back blade

"well I just can't all my poop in one sock lately."

Huh?






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