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 04-15-2003, 23:13 Post: 53198
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I'm currently looking into buying a new not so compact compact tractor. I want at least 40Hp and and 4wd. I also will purchase a front loader and a grader box with the tractor. Any info on the Kubota's GrandL, the Deere's 4010's, Case IH's DX's and the NH Bomer's would help, all 4 dealers are very close buy. I'm looking for the good and bad. The tractor will be doing all sorts of jobs as I'm starting a landscaping business. I've worked on a farm for most of my life but never have delt with these compact tractors. Every dealer says their tractor is the best, and give reasons why the others are bad but since these tractors are quite expensive I want some owners telling what they like and don't like about the brands they've had or have.

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 04-16-2003, 20:11 Post: 53253
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Welcome to the board Darrell,
I'd suggest scrolling down a bit or looking into the archives. I bought a TC40D a bit over 2 years ago and helped NH sell a few of the same on this board. (No commision-Damn.) I looked at all the others too. I had no favorites and I wasn't going to let $1000 make a difference on a $22000+ purchase. For me the visability and mostly the supersteer option is what did it for me. I didn't get a 45D because for some dumb reason NH does not have a mid PTO option. Good luck and keep us posted. Tom






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 04-16-2003, 21:55 Post: 53267
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Darrel, There really are no bad chioces. It depends mostly on what YOU like best and your comfort with the dealer. One factor for me was financing. All offer good terms, but some offer terms that might fit your needs better. Of the big three, JD fit ME the best and offered the best financing. I was much more comfortable with my NH dealer and I DID like the Super Steer. I wasn't comfortable with any of the local Kubota dealers, but their engine is great and they have the best hydrostatic transmission. In your case I would recommend a hydro. If not for that, one of the Korean tractors is also an option. Kioti, Mahindra and Century-Branson offer great, reliable machines at impressive prices. You are on the right track with 40+ HP I ended up with 48, you can never have too much HP or money in the bank.
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 04-16-2003, 21:57 Post: 53268
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Tom, I have one little question about the supersteer option. How Does it hold up with a FEL? I was worried about it being weeker than the solid front end, and also being unstable when cornering with the loader in the air.

A good friend just bought a CaseIH DX40, but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

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 04-17-2003, 05:31 Post: 53274
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There are some relevant threads in the archives. Unfortunately many of the more interesting discussions are sidebars to what's in the subject title so digging them out can be tough. Full text searches take awhile.

From what I recall, there has been some talk about SS failure and maintenance costs although few specific problems are mentioned. Loader height is an issue with any front axle. Most 4wd axles have centre pivot points so the front wheels provide little stability anyway. I believe that the way SS works is that the wheels turn conventionally until the hit their locks and then the axle starts swinging. SS doesn't really come into play except during heavy maneuvering. Loader or not, you sure don't want the front wheels pointing straight downhill if front wheel traction breaks on a steep side-grade. SS use probably should be avoided on significant side-grades anyway.

Some people have questioned if the fairly small reduction of turning radius that SS gives is really worth the price. Most people who have it seem to like it a lot.






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 04-17-2003, 06:08 Post: 53275
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Darrell, The supersteer option was well worth the $1000 to me. You wouldn't believe how this machine can maneuver through the woods with a FEL.The only maintanence or failure issues that I ever saw on this board have been people asking if there were issues. I have yet to see any problems by owners.I have slopes on my property and stability with this front end has yet to be a problem. As for the previous description of how it works, that is incorrect.It is a simple,strong setup, but one that is hard to describe. The front axle pivots with EVERY turn. It still has conventional spindles that pivot also. The more you turn, the more each one turns. I'd highly suggest that you go to a NH dealer and look at and try both front ends. As for all the other suggestions from the guys here, I agree completely.






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 04-17-2003, 06:37 Post: 53281
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Thanks Tom! There is a risk to summarizing vaguely remembered discussions over several years. I also seem to recall something about the ability to disengage SS but that may have come from the same discussion and also is wrong. What I recall may have been questions rather than answers. Fortunately there are enough people here so that nobody stays wrong for very long.

Despite your good results with stability, SS or not it's good to avoid heavy maneuvering on significant side-hills but I doubt that it's much more of an issue for SS.







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 04-17-2003, 06:44 Post: 53284
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Good morning Tom, I do believe that you're right about those old posts on SS. (Also, there is no disengaging)As for loads and sidehilling,once again I agree. While my loaded R4s,rollbar and seatbelt do make me feel safer, I have no intention of finding out where that saftey ends and the rolling begins.






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 04-17-2003, 06:49 Post: 53285
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With using the tractor for landscaping I would go as light as possible so not to compact the ground. I would look for something that is as user freindly as possible for future operators in a hopefully successful buisness. I would look for something that others have maybe operated or a generic style for anyone to be comfortable with manuvering in close quarters. With time being money review the daily, weekly and monthly maintence that is required. Remember nearly every moving part will fail eventually! Good Luck shopping sounds like you are in a good area for it. You might also look to a dealer that might be able to help you with other purchases later as you grow.






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I have a TC45 4WD New Holland and I love it. It is the same frame size as the 40HP NH. I use R4 tires which would be a good choice for your landscape business, unless you drive on grass a lot. Turf tires might be better in that case. I live at high altitude, and my 45HP engine will only develop about 38HP, so my performance will be very much like the TC40 that you are considering.

I grew up on a farm with JD equipment and I still like it, but where I live, it was much more expensive than the NH. I am fully satisfied with the NH Boomer.

I also have the 16LA loader and the 758C backhoe. All are good pieces of equipment. If you get SS, you will need to consider the 17LA loader which provides more clearance for the axle movement.






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