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 01-02-2003, 11:43 Post: 46836
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 Kubota Curious re BX 22

Recently stopped in to look at the Kubota BX22. Although the Kubota dealership had closed shop for the day, a salesman materialized from thin air and opened up the showroom to let me see everything in stock. In looking at the BX22, I was disillusioned with the actual size. I commented to the salesman that the model looked so tiny despite incorporating a loader and hoe. He confided to me that the chatter about the BX22 had been that is was "big enough to do nothing, but not big enough to do something". It would be fine for Sunday afternoon Harry Homeowner playing around he said. Of course it would benefit him to sell me a bigger more costly model, but I am being patient and looking for additional comments from those who have nothing to gain.

I have two questions:

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Any BX22 owners that can honestly comment as to the actual ability of the machine to do tasks. I don t mean digging a garage foundation, but give me some examples of what you got out of this machine task related.

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Kubota Dealers and research personnel. Has any consideration been given to putting together a package deal with the B7500 or 2410 to incorporate the FEL and Hoe ? I realize the 7500 is about equal in HP but it is heavier, and I m told "geared diffently". I would imagine greater Hoe capability and stability here.






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 01-02-2003, 14:04 Post: 46839
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All I can tell you is my best friend has the bx 22 and regrets not buying a biggger tractor. As your own words stated this is a great for wally weekender who wants to move some mulch but struggles with big work loads. The question is do you want a compact tractor or a sub-compact, big difference between the two. I would rather have to much tractor than not enough.






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 01-02-2003, 14:16 Post: 46840
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That s what I was afraid of. I prefer the compact. I guess I just needed to see some affirmation as to my suspicions. I would like to see Kubota offer a package deal with the compact instead of the sub compact. Does Kioti offer something like this with FEL and Hoe at comparable price? I think the Kubota 7500 with FEL and Hoe is around 20k neighborhood. I don t want to live in that neighborhood.






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 01-02-2003, 15:27 Post: 46841
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Cletus, I don't think you will find a NEW compact of any mid to large size with FEL and HOE for much less than 20k. Kioti has a 19 hp model ( pretty small) with FEL and HOE for about 16-17k. You might find one of the Chinese tractors with FEL and HOE for 2 or 3 thousand less.

You might want to check out your used options. to stay below 20K.






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 01-02-2003, 16:11 Post: 46845
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You can get a Branson 3510 with a loader and hoe for just under $20K. Weighs about 4700lbs in TLB trim, has a great loader and a quick detach sub-frame hoe. The quality is great. You could even get a set of quick attach front forks and scoop up a BX22 with it as it lifts about 1650lbs on the front.

Before any BX owner takes offense, I must say that they are a fine tractor and will do more work than most people think. Furthermore, not everone needs to dig out a huge oak tree stump in a half hour. If you have a little patience, you can do a lot of work with one. We sell a lot of little Yanmars that are not much bigger and the customers are pleased with them.






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 01-02-2003, 18:37 Post: 46850
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 Kubota Curious re BX 22

I really do not know if you are looking at a TLB or a tractor that can change its implements. I needed the option to use other equipement but I did look at a TERIMITE and was impressed.






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 01-02-2003, 19:11 Post: 46853
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Let me see if I can inject a little common sense into this discussion.

The B7500 weighs 1367 pounds, Has 16 pto horses and comes with a 6.5 ft backhoe.

The B2410 weighs just 110 (1477) pounds more, has 18 pto horse power and has the same 6.5 foot hoe.

Now the much misunderstood BX22: it outweighs them both at 1520 pounds, splits the difference with 16.7 pto HP and comes with a 6 ft. backhoe.

Yes, I know. It has small tires, which are a boon to me because the tractor is so much more stable.

So, could someone please tell me where any of the above models runs rings around the other?
Is it the 7/10's of a horsepower??
Or the 6 inch greater digging depth?
Or the extra 150 pounds base weight?








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 01-02-2003, 19:39 Post: 46855
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Good one Mark.

I am not sure that the specs are relevant to many tractor owners though. It all seems to depend on the color and model that they have their behind on Smile I can't really exclude myself from this eitherSmile






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 01-03-2003, 08:09 Post: 46864
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Dave alluded to a good point, and it is one that has been made here before. There is a "construction" standard by which we unconsciously compare things.

That is probably why cletus mentioned digging a garage foundation, which, by the way, I wouldn't hesitate to tackle with my BX.

Anyway, as Dave pointed out, a true construction T/L/B weighs a couple or three tons and can easily cart off most of our compacts in the bucket.

Our machines cannot compete in their league. But then again you don't see puny looking construction backhoes in a big mining operation, the stuff they use there could cart off several construction backhoes at one time.

When people deride my choice of tractor, saying: "why don't I get a real backhoe? loader? etc?", I tell them three things.

1) My whole T/L/B package cost the same as any given piece of a big yellow machine.

2) The payment each month is the same price as one days rental on big yellow and I am pretty damn sure I can get more work done in 30 days with my Kubota than they can in one day with their rental.

3) (And here is the real point) I didn't get the BX to replace big yellow from the rental yard. I got the BX to replace a pick and shovel and a wheel barrow.
Believe me, it does a wonderful job of replacing those tools and saving my 53 year old knees, back and shoulders.

Cletus, here is the testimonial you asked for: I found out no one had pumped the septic at my new place for 25+ years, so it was time to dig it out and get it done. In the intervening years, two cottonwood trees had interlaced their roots over the top of the tank. The BX excavated four feet of compacted soil and easily ripped through roots the size of my arm to clear the top of the tank for pumping.

If that salesman is trying to tell you that a tractor that weighs less and has virtually the same horsepower and costs $8K more is going to do a better job, I suggest you check the color of his eyes and see if anything brown is overflowing out of his ears.
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 01-03-2003, 08:30 Post: 46867
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 Kubota Curious re BX 22

And besides you had fun doing it with your BX






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