kubota l3130 3 point log splitter: Kubota Review  -- Kubota Tractors Discussion Forum and Review kubota l3130 3 point log splitter: Kubota Review -- Kubota Tractors Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Kubota Review Forum

Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 01-21-2007, 19:07 Post: 138985
jbm
2007-01-21 19:07:13
Post: 138985
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Does any one know how to hookup the hydrolics for a 3 point log splitter. I have only mid hydrolics for the front loader.
Thanks
jim






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-22-2007, 08:49 Post: 138995
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7046

4
Filter by User
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Jim, unless you have a rear remote the lines likely won't reach. If they do, just pick a set of outlets and use them, you will lose the other function on the loader of course.

Just be sure that the splitter and loader are both either open center, or closed center or it will do some funny things.

Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-22-2007, 11:17 Post: 139004
Art White



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Waterville New York
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 6850
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Everyone has different ideas as to how to split wood but as much as you might need another engine and pump it still might cost less then the total price of it tied to your tractor.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-22-2007, 19:01 Post: 139031
beagle

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Michigan
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1333
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

You can add additional circuits off the Power Beyond of you FEL valve. We add aftermarket rear remotes from the FEL PB for several uses, top and tilt, rear grapples, etc. Tou can add additional circuits, or use a splitter off the FEL valve. Adding circuits from the Power Beyond allows you to continue all Froont Loader functions while the rear remotes are operable. If you use a citcuit splitter, it's one or the other.

Your tractor has an open center system, so you need to make sure you get a splitter with an open center valve.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-18-2008, 16:29 Post: 157985
bialecki



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Southern Connecticut
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 60

3
Filter by User
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Hi guys I am bringing up an older thread. I recently purchased a SpeeCo 3pt log splitter from Tractor Supply. To address the hydraulic requirements, I ran a line from the Power Beyond to the rear of the tractor and a also added the return line. When not in use I have the two lines connected to complete the circuit. The quick connectors are mounted to a flange that is bolted to the rear of the tractor.

When using the log splitter I just connect the in line to the supply from the Power Beyond and the return to the return fitting/ connector that was added to the rear of the tractor. This setup allows me the use of the FEL which I use to transport the split wood.

In retrospect I would have not gone with the 3 pt splitter but would have gone with a dedicated splitter for the following reasons:

1) Slow cycle speed.
2) Requires the tractor to use the splitter, i.e., 30 Hp to run a splitter, not efficient.
3) Need of the tractor to move logs and split wood around to feed to the splitter or to stack at another location. Having the splitter attached to the tractor is not really convenient.

Benefit:
1) one less engine to take care of.
2) good rear ballast (just joking)






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-19-2008, 02:02 Post: 157998
candoarms



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Dakota
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1929
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Bialecki,

You make a good point with the cycle time being too slow. Most smaller tractors don't put out the necessary flow from the hydraulic pump to cycle a wood splitter as quickly as it should.

Most wood splitters require at least 11 gallons per minute to operate at reasonably quick cycle times. Most compact tractors put out less than 7 gallons per minute at full engine RPM.

The better solution is to mount a PTO driven pump on the splitter. This requires a separate hydraulic oil reservoir mounted somewhere on the splitter, as the tractor's hydraulic circuits aren't used. With the PTO powered pump, compact tractors in the 20 horsepower range can easily put out 11 gallons per minute. Larger tractors can do much better than that.

The additional benefit of having a PTO powered pump, is that the tractor can quickly be disconnected from the splitter, to be used for other projects. Reconnecting the splitter is as simple as locking the pump back onto the PTO shaft, and the connection point isn't nearly as critical as it is when hooking up to a hitch. You only have to get close enough for the hoses to reach.

I like the PTO pump for another reason. When changing the fluids in the tractor, I don't have to worry about the oil in the splitter contaminating the fresh oil I just put in the tractor. Since the hydraulic circuits are entirely independent from one another, the oil in the log splitter can be changed anytime it's convenient.

Joel






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-19-2008, 08:56 Post: 158003
kwschumm



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NW Oregon
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5764
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

I like the standalone splitter. Tow it to the job site, disconnect it, as wood is split it gets loaded into both ends of the tractor and ferried back and forth between the jobsite and woodshed.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-19-2008, 09:19 Post: 158004
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7046

4
Filter by User
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

I suspect a big part (most, likely) of the problem is not the tractor, but the lines and valves that connect the splitter to it.

I have several 3pth splitters, they run nearly the same speed as a stand-alone version would, faster if the stand-alone doesn't have a 2 stage pump.

Even a modest size tractor has ~8gpm to the remote or power beyond port. By comparison a typical 9hp Honda with a single stage pump makes ~3gpm. That's a little under half the volume, and therefore under half the speed. A typical 9hp Honda coupled to a 2 stage pump will make ~16gpm at low power, but still ~3gpm on high pressure.

The math doesn't work for the stand-alone splitter argument. Not unless you fully cycle the cylinder on every single stroke. Even then I doubt you could tell the difference.

If for instance, you are cycling a 24" cylinder stop-to-stop, and splitting 16" wood you are moving the cylinder 8" x 2 directions each time too much. That's 16" of cylinder travel wasted on each cycle.

But if you look at the above figures, and figure that for 66% of the time (16" of 24"Wink yeah right the cylinder is moving 100% faster (8gpm instead of ~3gpm) then the tractor should be way faster.

I run my personal one with the tractor at a fast idle, ~2/3rds throttle, and have it mounted on the utility bracket on my FEL. I've run it side by side to a stand-alone plenty of times, no visible difference in speed. There's a huge difference in operator comfort though, not having to bend over is a huge bonus!!

I'll bet if you calculate the proper hydraulic line size for what you are trying to do you will find the lines are probably about half or less of what they should be.

Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-19-2008, 10:15 Post: 158009
bialecki



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Southern Connecticut
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 60

3
Filter by User
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

Murf, I think on one of your replies with reference to a log splitter and the timing, you noted that you added a chain to act as a hard stop on the return stroke of the cylinder, hence the position of the valve pops the detent and stops the cylinder from fully retracting, saving cycle time in both directions. As I understand it from your response, I can possibly add a clamp onto the beam so when the wedge is returning it will encounter the resistance and pop the detent. Assuming that the Speeco 3pt log splitter uses an inexpensive valve, I wonder if there is an adjustment so the detent will pop out with the minimal resistance created from mounting a clamp, i.e., "C" clamp or Vise Grips, etc.

Any thoughts?

Thanks






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-19-2008, 11:56 Post: 158011
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7046

4
Filter by User
 kubota l3130 3 point log splitter

That wasn't me, but it would work, in theory, but I don't like the idea in general because it would be difficult to put on a chain such that it stopped the cylinder without trying to twist it.

You don't need anything fancy, most hydraulic shops, and likely web-based outlets as well, sell something called a "stroke limiter" or "stroke controller" which is nothing more than a fancy term for a collar you clamp around the piston rod. When it hits the body of the cylinder it causes enough pressure to kick the valve off it's detent.

It doesn't have to be that fancy. For instance, a piece of heavy wall pipe or tube just big enough to go around the piston rod and cut lengthwise down the middle then put around the rod with a rad hose clamp will work just fine.

If you always split 16" wood, and have a 24" stroke splitter, just make a 6" sleeve that will restrict the opening to 18" until you remove it. That will save you the time for the cylinder to travel 12" (6" open, 6" close) on each stroke. That will speed you up by 25% right off the bat.

If you look at my picture # 8 (see below) you will see my notion for doing it. It's a little tough to see, but the cylinder has NO detents at all, and is spring-loaded such that letting go of the handle causes it to go to the 'open' position. The bar that is visible going downwards past the cylinder then meets an adjustable stopper on the push plate.

It works very simply, when you split a piece of wood and let go, the spring causes the valve to start the retract process. When the cylinder opens to the (adjustable) point of the stopper meeting the rod, the valve is pushed back against the spring and into the 'null' (parked) position waiting for the next block.

Best of luck.





Picture Link
Kubota Review: kubota-l3130-3-point-log-splitter

Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Kubota Review Forum

Thread 138985 Filter by Poster:
Art White 1 | beagle 1 | bialecki 3 | candoarms 1 | jbm 1 | kwschumm 1 | Murf 4 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
jaylemaster

Shibaura - SL 1643
SL 1643


Unanswered Questions

Shibaura SD2203 rear axle oil
Mitsubishi MX55
Gator HPX ignition module
SL 1643
Removing LHS rear wheel beari
Gear Grinding 1200A - primary
Replacing a friction diskwashe
Bolens k1502 mitsubishi K3 ove


Active Subjects

Where Murf
Big country 4x2 utility vehicl
Operation
lift cylinder for 3pt hitch wo
Still have jerk in hydro
Flatulent gifts human and dog
front mount snowblower
Hydraulics Won t Work


Hot Topics

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Case 446 hydraulic pump
Long 460 hydraulic problem
Jinma Tractor w transmission p
Flatulent gifts human and dog
Generator set up ideas wanted
6X4 Gator Sometimes Shudders
Roof VP75 Brush Mower Manual


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ Kubota AT70s Rear Tine Tiller
+ Kubota HST GST Shuttle or Gear Transmission
+ Best Boom Mower for Kubota B2710 Tractor
+ Definition of Tractor Loader Breakout force
+ Kubota B3200 vs JD 2720
+ New Kubota L3240 First Look Review
+ Kubota Transmission Fluid SUDT
+ KUBOTA Tractor Trouble Free Quality
+ Kubota BX2230 VS kIOTI CK20HST
+ Replacement for Kubota Super UDT Hydraulic Fluid

Most Discussion

+ How to match Truck to Trailer
+ New Kubota L3240 First Look Re
+ Kubota Number 1 in Compact Tra
+ KUBOTA Tractor Trouble Free Qu
+ Source for after market produc
+ 3-Point Quick Hitch
+ B 7100 ST - Making the Leap
+ Kubota Transmission Fluid SUDT
+ Kubota vs John Deere Compact T
+ L3130HST vs JD4310Hydro HELP

Newest Topics

+ LOOKING FOR PERSONAL USE TRACTOR
+ 3 PT POSITIONDRAFT ICON NOTIFICATION
+ BX23S
+ Kubota B2301 vs Deere 2025R vs Mahindra Max24
+ 5040 shear on my PTO shaft
+ Kubota B7100 HST Flipped Will Not Move
+ Kubota b7100-hst
+ B2601 vs bx1800
+ 2000 B2710 I need a loader dealer wants over 4K an
+ Upgrading the Factory 145amp Alternator to 40 Amp
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines