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 | tmeek1
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 15 N.Y. 
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2004-03-10 79459
I have heard alot of comment the 43 is better for the little extra money . How much extra and what advantages on the bigger model? Also what is general rule on pricing, off list,on tractor and attatchments?Thanks
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| CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN
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2004-03-10 79467
The 4310 has 32 engine horse power, the 4210 has 28. The 4310 hydraulic pump pumps 8.6 gpm and the 4210 pumps 7. The hydraulic pressure is 2500 psi on the 4310 the 4210 is 2125 psi. The 4310 will take a 420 or 430 loader the 4210 will only take the 420. The 4310 will also take either the 47 or 48 hoe and the 4210 will only handle the 47. I asked a couple dealers about the price difference in the 4310 and the 4410, it was about $1600.00, they also said it is about the same difference between all the models. Good luck. ....
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| mav7768
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19 Buckley, WA
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2004-03-10 79470
I've noticed in Deere's literature about loaders that the FEL430 has only 200lbs difference in load than FEL420. I'm not sure why when there is a huge difference in the break force at the pivot point. Any thoughts? ....
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 | ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY 
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2004-03-10 79471
I chose 4310 over 4210 for reasons CraigC mentioned. The dealer recommended a 4210 but I was glad I took the 4310, even though I'm sure the 4210 would have done the job for me. I just felt better being in the middle of the midframe and having the extra hp, psi. And the cost wasn't that much more.
I paid $26,500 tax included for 4310 with 430 FEL and 47 backhoe, R4s in March 2003. I didn't get much off over the promotions from the dealer. There was a discussion elsewhere on this site where you might avoid sales tax if you claim you have a farm. ....
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 | kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon 
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2004-03-10 79472
I found that a lot of implements I wanted required a minimum of 25 pto hp. That left the 4210 out cold. It seems that 25 pto hp is sort of a sweet spot in implement availability. ....
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| CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN
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2004-03-10 79473
One dealer told me He sells a 4210 if the tractor is going to be just basically a mowing tractor and pushes the 4310 if it is going to be used for other stuff. Personally, I ordered a 4310 but if I had more $$$$ to spend would have went with the 4410. It is always nice to have more power than you need and hard to add when you don't have but do need. ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-03-10 79474
I know what you mean about more power being better. If the 4410 was only a few hundred more it could be justified, but for $1500 savings I'll enjoy the seat time all the more :) I doubt you will find a job the 4410 will do that the 4310 cannot do with only a small increase in time spent. ....
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| CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN
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2004-03-10 79475
I am sure you are right, just the old saying "more is better". ....
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| sshuma
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 38
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2004-03-11 79580
The 4310 also has better ground clearance than the 4210 (mostly due to larger wheels and tires). That's very handy for working in the woods...
I went in looking at a 4210, but one of my main needs was the 59" front-mount snowblower. The dealer told me the 4210 would drive it, but would bog down. The 4310 handles it with ease.
The 430 loader was another push for me to go to the 4310. The 430 is not only a 'stronger' loader, it has more versatility in buckets and other attachments.
Finally, the larger hydraulic flow on the 4310 is a big plus -- especially if you want to drive things like log splitters off of the power beyond. ....
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| mav7768
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19 Buckley, WA
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2004-03-12 79652
I need some clarification...maybe I'm just looking at this wrong.
Model 410 420 430 460
load 800 1003 1261 2325
break force 2130 2141 3299 3863
Can anyone explain to me why the 430FEL has a load of 1261 when the break force is approaching that of a 460FEL? At least that is what I'm getting out of the JD brochure.
I did get the 4310 with a 430FEL; but I guess I expected a bit more load. Again, I could be looking at this all wrong.
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-03-12 79653
Might it be due to the relief valve settings on the mid framed 10-series tractors? They don't want you to pick up a load so big you'd break something else (like the front axle). On other machines (like the 790) I've heard of guys tweaking the relief valve to get higher lift capacity, but that's the kind of thing that would void a warranty real quick if something broke. ....
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