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 08-14-2003, 20:24 Post: 61868
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Just picked up my 4115 on Sat. Had 2 hrs on it. Brought it home and 3-point wouldn't raise. After a few minutes, it finally would raise. 410 loader will not raise a full load to max. height. It also bleeds off even with an empty bucket. Power steering will not turn the tires on pavement when it is parked. High range HST at full throttle and full speed is making an aweful rattling noise. And last but not least, the paint on the fenders and floor boards and also under the set tin work is bubbling with rust underneath. Thought I was getting a (new) tractor. Never thought I would be disappointed with a Deere. Took it the dealer on thursday, and they are in the process of looking for a new tractor. Would still like to know what the deal is with all the problems.






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 08-14-2003, 20:33 Post: 61869
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That sounds pretty poor. It seems that many or most of the problems you observed are hydraulics related, maybe they are traceable back to a bad pump or valve assembly. It happens. Does the 4115 separate the power steering from the rest of the hydraulics? Not sure how bad the paint was but I'm sure I could go to any new tractor of any brand on any lot and find rust and bad paint somewhere on it. They don't seem to strive for the paint finish that's expected on a new car.






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 08-14-2003, 20:38 Post: 61870
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thumperdrm,

Glad to see you made it back. Sounds like your dealer is trying to do right by you if they want to replace the tractor. When I worked at a John Deere dealer (about 23 years ago), I had seen JD 410's come in with trans sumps and filter just loaded with metalic flake from the hyd. pump crapping out. It would stop up the filters, cylinders, and all the control valve blocks and just make a mess. The hydraulics would behave like you described last night. We had to pull the pumps and rebuild them, pull the loader and hoes control valve blocks, disassemble them, clean them out, replace seals, and reassemble. Not to mention change oil, filters, etc. Even then we still had problems with these machines. It is a big PITA to rid the systems of contamination like that. In your case I think I would want the new tractor. I would not want something that has already started off on the wrong foot and been torn apart and may be prone to more future problems. Failures like this can happen for any number of reasons. Again it sounds to me like your dealer is doing right by you. Hopefully he can find another 4115 or in this case if you had doubts about whether you bought a big enough tractor; now might be a time to possibly move up to a 4210 or 4310. In any case, hang in there. I have a feeling your dealer will take good care of you.






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 08-14-2003, 20:39 Post: 61871
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By the way, it sounds like your dealer may have done a poor job on the pre-delivery checks. They should at least have checked the 3ph operation, and I would think that would have given them a clue.






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 08-15-2003, 06:14 Post: 61879
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I love you guys! Chief sorry for all the problems you had when working at the dealer! Looking at it from the other side I guess that's job security. I guess that's why we sell what we do. If we had one in one hundred like what you talked of chances are we would cancel our contract or I'd have to get out of the buisness!! I would say it more then likely was a left over or one from a dealer that didn't want to take the time to fix what chief has found in other ones.






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 08-15-2003, 07:54 Post: 61891
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Art, I should have made clear that most of the units we got in like I was eluding to were out of warranty although we did get the occasional newbee. His dealer may have traded for that tractor and the problems did not occur while they had it. In any case, it sounds like they are trying to do right by him now.






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thanks guys for all your input. I think the dealer will try to make it right. I'll keep posted if I find out the problems. As for the paint, it was bad enough to where in a few months I would have a rust bucket. I garage keep my equipment, and take pride in my machinary. If it were used that's one thing, but it wasn't. It cost more than a car, why shouldn't it look as good as one?






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 09-02-2004, 20:12 Post: 95418
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I just took delivery of a 4115 with a 60in belly mower and 410 FEL. After 50 hours, I am having an issue with the power steering not working when the tractor is standing still. It actually started at about 20 Hrs. You indicated in your first posting that you were having a similar problem. What did the dealer do to fix it??? My dealer is giving me trash that JD corporate is telling them I do not have enough ballast in the rear wheels. Just doesn't make sense to me. Does anyone else have a 4115 with this issue and what what was done to fix. thanks in advance,






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There is some credence to the argument. If you have turfs or R-4s, especially if you are running on hard surfaces, the steering will feel real stiff.

The first 4115 I test drove had an FEL, turfs and no ballast. It steered like a truck on asphalt but Ok on grass.

I have a 4115 now with lots of rear ballast and the only time I get real stiff steering is when the load in the FEL gets too heavy.

Have you considered removing the FEL while mowing?






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I think there's some fluffy language from the dealer/corp. Most people would think that 'weight on the wheels' means loaded tires or wheel weights. That type ballast doesn't change the steering much. Weight carried on the 3ph is still on the wheels I suppose but it does lighten the steering.

Most PS steering systems have an adjustable relief valve. If the problem just suddenly appeared the relief pressure might be checked. It's also possible that the problem is there when no 3ph implement is mounted and not there when one is mounted.






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