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 02-06-2003, 18:46 Post: 48807
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Had an interesting visit at Gold Country Kubota on Tuesday.

I needed to get some bar tires for the BX because the turfs are not working out as well as I thought, and the dealer down the street has blackballed me because I bought a tractor somewhere else.
So I drive 130 miles one way when I need parts.
Sigh.

Anyway, Since this is a real tractor dealer, they had lots of cool stuff. Got to see (and crawl under) the new JD 4010 and 2210. Also kicked the tires on the new Kubota BX1500, and I have observations on all of these that I will save for another thread.

While there I found a publication called:

John Deere Governmental Bid Specification Booklet.

It has a bunch of info we don't usually see in consumer sales brochures, such as:

Engine compression ratios,
Suggested operating ranges (RPM),
Drawbar tongue weight ratings (vertical loads),
Towing and braking capacities,
Axle weight ratings and,
Operational sound levels as expressed in dB(A).

In a prior thread I was running through some ballast numbers I gleaned from the operators manual on my 410 loader.

The numbers in this publication confirm I was in the right neighborhood.

The front axle on the 41xx series is rated "in operation" at 750# and the rear axle is rated at 2426#. These numbers (3176 pounds)effectively double the weight of the bare bones tractor and give us a clue as to what amount of ballast the tractor is designed to accommodate.

If you folks would like some of the numbers on your 4000, 5000, 90 and 110 series tractors, let me know.

Did you know that Deere has five models of skid steers and those suckers weigh as much as 9200 pounds?







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 02-06-2003, 18:51 Post: 48808
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I would be interested on the info for a 4110






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 02-06-2003, 19:27 Post: 48812
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David, here are the numbers for the 4710, I am not sure if it is am exact comparison to the 4700:

Fuel Consumption 75 percent power..........1.9 GPH
Engine compression ratio... 18:1
Suggested operating ranges (RPM)..... 1000-2810
Drawbar tongue weight ratings (vertical loads)... 1000#
Towing and braking capacities "Equals ballasted weight of tractor and operator", (the 4210-4410 are listed at 8000# from the drawbar so the 4710 should add up to about 10,500# from the drawbar)
Axle weight ratings .........front 4960#, rear 5292#
Operational sound levels as expressed in dB(A)...88


Johnson, here are the 4110 numbers:

Fuel Consumption 75 percent power..........Not Listed
Engine compression ratio... 23.1 : 1
Suggested operating ranges (RPM)..... 1000-2850
Drawbar tongue weight ratings (vertical loads)... 562#
Towing and braking capacities ..N/L
Axle weight ratings .........front 750#, rear 2426#
Operational sound levels as expressed in dB(A)...85


Not all specs are listed for all models.






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 02-06-2003, 19:46 Post: 48814
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lets hear some numbers on the 790 deere






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 02-06-2003, 20:25 Post: 48816
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The 790:

Fuel Consumption 75 percent power.........1.3 gph
Engine compression ratio... 18.1 : 1
Suggested operating ranges (RPM)..... 800-2800
Drawbar tongue weight ratings (vertical loads)... 675#
Towing and braking capacities .."Equals ballasted weight of tractor and operator", (should add up to about 7250# if the load is pulled from the drawbar and does not exceed the tongue weight)

Axle weight ratings .........front 3308#, rear 3749#
Operational sound levels as expressed in dB(A)...87

Wow. One stout tractor! 2105# stripped weight and it can carry 5000# ballast! Or maybe they are saying ballast it up, especially for loader work, and get to work(??)






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 02-06-2003, 21:01 Post: 48818
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wow that almost sounds out of line beings its a small tractor.that sure is a lot of weight thanks for numbers






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 02-06-2003, 21:10 Post: 48820
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Mark, I hope you don't get tired of typing. It sure is nice of you to posts all those specs. I've noticed during my tractor shopping that JD seems to offer the most specs, especially for utility models. One that seems missing from some manufacturers and is potentially the most important is torque and torque rise. What happens is some players try to get more HP out of less displacement and, in a diesel, usually the torque numbers drop. Not trying to start any arguments but they often put fuel consumption numbers at PTO speed etc. Doe's Nebraska test foreign models too. I haven't checked yet...Kyle






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Mark,
What does that mean for us 4110/410 FEL owners? If I pick up a bucket of just about anything, I would exceed the 750# weight rating for the front axle.






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 02-06-2003, 21:40 Post: 48822
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mark; do you have any numbers on the jd855 hydro unit. if so please send them to me.. thanks sonny jones






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 02-06-2003, 22:25 Post: 48823
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Mark, what do you mean by your local dealer black balled you??????? When you fingers are felling nimble, you can throw up some specs. on the 4410.

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