Tilt Meter for JD 4100: John Deere Review  -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum and Review Tilt Meter for JD 4100: John Deere Review -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 02-07-2002, 14:58 Post: 35381
Mike Yager



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Has anyone installed a tilt meter for a JD 4100? If so, what kind did you use? Thanks.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-07-2002, 16:17 Post: 35383
Bird Senter

TP Contributor

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 962

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Mike, I don't know for sure about the 4100, but a number of people have installed tiltmeters from the web site listed below on a variety of tractors. I have one for side to side and one for front to rear.






Link:   Click Here 

Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-11-2002, 10:07 Post: 35483
Mike Yager



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Thanks for your help. I contacted them and they had a meter they recommended for the 4100. I have ordered it.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-11-2002, 12:47 Post: 35485
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7044

2
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

When ever somebody asks me about tiltmeters I have two standard replies... 1) if you need to know how steep the incline is then use the 'seat of the pants' method, if it feels uncomfortable, don't do it, and if the seat of your pants are moist, it's too late... and 2) if you install a tiltmeter on your machine you wil be tempted to look at it on a slope, this is the very last instance in which your concentration should be on anything except what you are doing.... Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-11-2002, 18:49 Post: 35499
Bird Senter

TP Contributor

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 962

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

So you don't need a tiltmeter? Murf, I know you've had a great deal of experience and I value your opinions; however, a lot of folks haven't had that much experience yet. And the fact is that you don't NEED a fuel gauge either; fill it up at the start of the job; you'll soon know how long you can run it before needing fuel. And you don't NEED a tachometer; you can't over rev the engine on most diesel tractors. And if you get on a slope and it doesn't FEEL safe, don't do it. On the other hand, if you decide it DOES feel safe; go for it, and if you turn the tractor over, you'll know your feeler wasn't working right. Yep, lots of things that we don't NEED, but on the other hand, if you WANT to know, well, I kinda like my tiltmeters.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-12-2002, 09:02 Post: 35515
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7044

2
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Don't get me wrong Bird 'ol buddy, it's not that I don't think that people (especially the less experienced of us) don't NEED a tiltmeter. It's just from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I have found that the absolute, without a doubt, very, very LAST thing someone without (or with for that matter) a lot of experience needs is something to distract them from the task at hand in such a situation. Operating any machine requires concentration, the bigger, more powerful the machine, the more concentration require since even a moments hesitation in executing a 'correcting' manuever can have serious (or even permanent) consequences. Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-12-2002, 13:22 Post: 35530
Mike Yager



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Update:

I ordered the Tilt Meter and got it a couple of days later. I have already put it on the tractor.

I agree that you usually can tell when you have gone too far by the seat of the pants method but I thought this would provide an extra measure of safety. Heck, if seat of the pants always worked, there would be no need for the ROPS.

I don't think you would rely on either method - seat of the pants or the meter but use a combination of both. The ability of a tractor to tip will be influenced by several factors, the angle being one. Others will include attachments being used and the condition of the ground.

If the angle starts to feel wrong, its easy to take a quick glance at the meter from the corner of my eye, much like you would a tach in a car. I have had my tractor in a situation a couple of time when the angle was starting to seem extreme. Nothing happened but it seemd like it would be nice to give a tilt meter a quick glance and if things didn't look good, get the heck out of where I was at.

Anyway, I have the meter on the tractor and will have to see how it works.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-12-2002, 13:49 Post: 35531
Todd Wilson



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

So whats the amount of degree's before say a JD950 will tip over? Whats the safe amount of degree's to go on a slope. I know i have mowed some ditches that while on the seat seemed like it was at an extreme angle but looking at it off the tractor it wasnt that bad of a slope.


Todd






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-13-2002, 04:18 Post: 35550
Bird Senter

TP Contributor

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 962

3
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

Todd, I have read (don't know for sure) that there is a safety standard requiring most tractors to be able to go to 20 degrees without turning over. However, that only applied to the bare tractor without taking into consideration things such as implements, front end loaders, backhoes, canopies, etc. I don't expect the tractor manufacturers to come out and state a specific number because too many factors enter into it. Things like the speed you're traveling and whether you try to turn upslope. And if you're already at the maximum on a smooth slope, it would only take a very small limb, rock, or other bump on the high side, or a very slight depression or soft spot on the low side to ruin your whole day. I only used the seat of the pants method myself until a couple of years ago, and go curious about what angle some of the slopes were, so I have a tiltmeter for front to rear as well as one for side to side. I probably don't have as much nerve as a lot of folks. The steepest side slope I've gotten on was 18 degrees. In fact, I tried parking the tractor there and got off to see whether I could tip it by hand (I couldn't), but I have no intentions of getting my tractor on a 20 degree slope. Actually anything over 10 degrees starts making me uncomfortable, and at 15 degrees I work VERY slowly and carefully (another time the HST transmission is an advantage).

Of course, I find the tiltmeter to be an aid when spreading dirt, making swales or drainage ditches, etc. because, unlike some folks, I can't always look at the ground and tell for sure whether it's level or which way water will run.

In other words, the tiltmeters are just another aid; I don't even look at them most days, but of course, if I had my way, I guess my tractor instrument panel would look like an airplane instrument panel. I like instruments to let me know what's happening and/or whether the seat of my pants is right.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-13-2002, 07:54 Post: 35555
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

2
Filter by User
 Tilt Meter for JD 4100

I'm echoing Bird's comments. It's good both have a good idea of the slopes a tractor will operate on. It's also a good idea to pay attention to how a tractor feels. Doing both is a good idea. Stay off dangerously steep slopes, and also stay away from places that feel uncomfortable.

I believe that many tractor accidents start as slides and may turn into turnovers. I believe that this 20-degree standards stuff is an engineering concept that probably has to do with centre of gravity, ideal operating conditions and acceptable safety margins. Somebody may know specifically, but I doubt the standards have much to do with traction and soil conditions. In terms of operations, it's important to keep in mind that a slope worked one day may become unsafe after a hard overnight rain. There are so many variables here that I can't imagine any manufacturer stating that a tractor could be safely operated up to some slope limit.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Thread 35381 Filter by Poster:
Bird Senter 3 | Chief 2 | kwschumm 2 | Mike Yager 3 | Murf 2 | Todd Wilson 1 | TomG 2 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
ford15000

Cub Cadet - Cub Cadet 5254 4Wd Driveline Clunking Noise
Cub Cadet 5254 4Wd Driveline Clunking Noise


Unanswered Questions

Shibaura SD2203 rear axle oil
Mitsubishi MX55
Gator HPX ignition module
SL 1643
Removing LHS rear wheel beari
Gear Grinding 1200A - primary
Replacing a friction diskwashe
Bolens k1502 mitsubishi K3 ove


Active Subjects

Big country 4x2 utility vehicl
Operation
lift cylinder for 3pt hitch wo
Still have jerk in hydro
Flatulent gifts human and dog
front mount snowblower
Hydraulics Won t Work
4210 ehydro codes


Hot Topics

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Case 446 hydraulic pump
Long 460 hydraulic problem
Jinma Tractor w transmission p
Flatulent gifts human and dog
Generator set up ideas wanted
6X4 Gator Sometimes Shudders
Roof VP75 Brush Mower Manual


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ John Deere 2210 Backhoe Review
+ John Deere vs Kubota Compact Tractors
+ John Deere 790 fuel shut-off solenoid failing
+ John Deere low viscosity HY GARD
+ John Deere JD 4100 Wiring diagram
+ JD 790 or Kubota L3000DT
+ Should I buy a John Deere 4105
+ John Deere 4300 turns over but won t start
+ John Deere 455 garden tractor
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Most Discussion

+ John Deere 4300 scuffing
+ Possible Solution To The 4000
+ Dealer out to lunch
+ Just got my new JD 4410 - Prob
+ Hello Green Goodbye Orange
+ Receiver hitch for iMatch
+ 4300 wheel bolt problems
+ 4000 Ten Series 50 hour break
+ Don t buy JD compact tractors
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Newest Topics

+ tractor stalling
+ tractor dies
+ 1200A Bunker Rake
+ Oil overflow from tube and Smoke
+ John Deere 4100 gear 3 point not workin
+ 2000 John Deer Gator 4 X2
+ Mini Excavator SY20C - Small Body with Big Power
+ John Deer 1070 starting problem
+ John Deere 990
+ Tractors R Us
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines