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 09-21-2001, 12:59 Post: 31944
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I own a JD 4100. I need to get/buy a counter weight block for the rear 3PH. Is it better to buy the box from JD and fill it with concrete or have one welded up at my local shop? (I'm wondering if there is any advantage to buying one from the dealer that I am not aware of). Thanks, Kevin






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 09-21-2001, 14:23 Post: 31945
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Kevin, there have been a number of discussions and descriptions of home-made counterweights on this, or other, discussion forums. I can't see that it makes any difference whether you buy from John Deere, make one yourself, or have one made, as long as you have about the right amount of weight.






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 09-21-2001, 14:48 Post: 31946
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By "right amount of weight" do you mean the heavier the better? Is there a typical amount that I would want? I have a 4100, gear and need the counter weight mostly for bucket work. TIA, Kevin






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 09-21-2001, 16:33 Post: 31948
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Kevin, the right amount of weight will depend on how much you are picking up with the front end loader. I'm not familiar with all the specs, or the owner's manual for your tractor, but some use a weight box that they can put small amounts of weight in, or they can add more weight when desired, while others have done such things as taking a small barrel, run a piece of pipe or rod through it to stick out on both ends to use for the lower links, then pour it full of concrete and put a metal bracket in the concrete (before it dries) for the top link. That way the weight is always the same. As long as you have enough weight to keep the back wheels firmly on the ground, without being too much for your 3-point hitch to lift and hold . . ., in other words it ain't an exact science.






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 09-21-2001, 19:12 Post: 31951
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my dad made one 40 years ago out of a barrel.he cut the top 1/3 off of a 55 gallon drum,put a draw bar thru it and poured it full of concrete.i still use it but never did wieght it.good luck






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 09-21-2001, 23:28 Post: 31954
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If you go to the expense of buying a commercial weight box, you may not want to fill it with concrete. That would prevent you from using the box for anything else, such as carrying tools when you arent using the loader. Using gravel or sand allows you to empty the box, but loose gravel or sand is messy. When I had a weight box, I used 80lb. sand tubes that I bought at the hardware store. I could then put in as much weight as I wanted, from nothing up to at least 8 tubes. Another approach is Kasco's weight box, which has a water spigot at the bottom. You can fill it with as much water as you want for weight and then drain it.






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 09-22-2001, 23:05 Post: 31964
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Kevin, I used a 6' rear blade for counterweight on my 4100 and will use it on my new Kubota. It is a fairly heavy one and not only did it provide excellent balance on that manchine, it is usefull.






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I too own a 4100. I use a 54" box blade, with an additional 200# of steel weights on top of the blade. That way I have 500# of weight, which seems fine to me. Another thing I do when moving loose material like soil or gravel: I use a rear scoop on my 3 ph. That way I fill the scoop with the same material I am moving with the loader bucket, and I can move nearly twice as much material per trip. I just make sure that I empty the loader bucket first before dumping the scoop.






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My 410 loader manual for my 4100 gear has a chart that lays out how much rear weight is needed to safely operate the loader. I would be happy to post it if anyone needs it.






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One thing I didn't mention on this subject, and perhaps the experts here know better than I, but the old rear blade I use for a counterweight extends out farther than some of the newer ones I have seen. This use of leverage allows me to use less weight due to its' relationship to the rear axle.






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