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 11-24-2005, 10:35 Post: 119779
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I am coming up on my second hydraulic fluid change at 400 hours (JD4310). The first time I used a 3/8 ratchet with no socket to remove the plug with square hole - but it slipped somewhat when using it. Is there a socket (or other special tool) with a perfectly square tip that won't slip?

Also, the plugs to drain the front axle use a 3/16 hex wrench. My first attempt at loosening these bent the allen wrench so I think I need a socket or other higher quality wrench for these. I am surprised that these are SAE rather than metric sizes.

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 11-24-2005, 12:26 Post: 119782
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If your 3/8's slipped in a square hole the hole is probably 1/2" Therefor 1/2" ratchet needed. For Allen wrenches go to your local machine shop supply and get a set of quality long handled Allen's.

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 11-24-2005, 13:07 Post: 119783
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For allen wrenches in larger sizes I'd advise getting a set of 3/8" drive allen bits. They snap on your ratchet and give a lot better control than the traditional L-shaped allen wrenches.






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 11-24-2005, 13:23 Post: 119784
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Certainly nothing wrong with doing a service a little bit early. The service you are referring to is not do until 450 machine hours if you have done all of the other services on time. The first trans. oil change is required at the 50 hour break in service and then every 200 hours there after.






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 11-24-2005, 16:55 Post: 119791
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Notice it says CHECK the oil level not change at 200 hrs.






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And change at 400 hrs.

Here is a link for the square sockets that you might need. They are the fourth item down.






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 11-24-2005, 17:28 Post: 119794
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Oneace, there in lies the rub. I am not sure if it is possible to change the suction filter without loosing a lot of oil and making a big mess. Perhaps the hydrostatic filter. If anyone has already performed this service I sure would appreciate it if they could post there remarks and experience in completing the 200 hour service. If it is possible to change the filters and not loose the oil.....so much the better and less PITA for me! ;O) Thanks for bringing that up Tony. I was thinking the oil may have to be drained to change the filters. That is why I like TP!; it is a great place to always be learning something new!






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Have you tried jacking up the filter side3 of the tractor so you do not loose as much fluid?






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 11-24-2005, 18:48 Post: 119796
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Not sure if I like that idea but I will call the Deere shop on Friday or Monday and ask them about this. It would be great if I did not have to change the trans. oil for another 200 hours. I purchased 10 gallons of Shell DONAX TD just in case and have all of the filters. I will be at 250 hours in about another 10 hours. I remember that amount of oil that came out of the suction filter fixture and it was a good bit, even after I had drained the transmission. Could have just been the residual left in the suction tube but sure made me think it would have been more if the trans was not drained.






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Thank you gentlemen for all your comments. Ahhh, it is called a "male pipe plug socket". Also, I had "400 hours" imprinted in my mind for the 2nd transmission oil replace rather than "every 400 hours". Since I changed the transmission oil late at 100 hours (guilty!) I guess I am good until 500 hours.






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