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 12-30-2015, 19:54 Post: 194266
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I purchased a used 2001 cub cadet 7305 diesel 30hp tractor for farm work and other odd jobs around the land. I noticed when I started using it, it had trouble starting unless it had sat for awhile. Now, just the other day I went to start it on a colder day, and all it did was kind of click to turn over and then dies right off. I thought it might have been from being cold, but I heated it up, it didn't work. Then we had 50-60 degree weather for several days, and it still just clicks/dies/or does nothing. Could someone tell me what they think it is? I'd really appreciate the help, kind of useless to me just sitting there. Thanks!






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 01-03-2016, 11:58 Post: 194277
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The clicking sounds like a weak battery or bad connection. My 404 will start and die a couple of times before running and even then it runs at idle till it warms up. I run an anti-gell/conditioner in fuel from fall to spring. Your battery runs your starter. Notice when your diesel is running and you turn your key off it continues to run until you cut the fuel. The diesel runs on fuel combustion.






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 01-04-2016, 19:13 Post: 194281
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Even if the battery is bad or bad connection, the lights and glow bulb still will come on like completely normal? I do add a diesel conditioner during the cold months, and if I remember correctly, I had only run the engine once since it was in. Would that have anything linked, or do you think it was most likely the battery? I noticed the terminals could definitely use some cleaning, but I haven't gotten a chance to work on it yet. Thanks for your help.






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 01-05-2016, 11:17 Post: 194283
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At this point for what you have described I'd be cleaning terminals.






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 01-06-2016, 15:19 Post: 194295
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Take the battery cables off and clean the inside of the clamps as they will glaze over and prevent good contact also.






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 01-09-2016, 13:47 Post: 194308
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Thanks guys. I finally got the terminals cleaned up. They weren't really that bad, some corrosion. Tried starting it up, and it's exactly like it was before. I turn the key, and once the glow light is out, it just steady clicks as I hold the key on. Any clue on what else it could be? The battery definitely seems to be strong.






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 01-14-2016, 12:21 Post: 194323
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I don't think being a diesel is the problem, it's a good old electrical starter problem. What age is the battery? If it's the original from 2001, it's done. Don't judge a battery by output to lights, etc..., it's the cranking amps that count. If you boost it with cables from another battery does it start, or crank faster? Use the glow plugs for a good 7 secs before starting too.






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 01-14-2016, 13:22 Post: 194324
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Definitely try starting with jumper cables.

Also make sure the connections at the starter solenoid are clean.

If it will not start with all good clean connections and jumpers might be starter solenoid.






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 01-14-2016, 14:58 Post: 194325
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I am not familiar with your particular model Cub. That said, one of the things that can really drive a person nuts is issues with safety switches. I have a Cub 6284 and I encountered starting problems that were difficult to pin down until I modified the starter solenoid activation circuit with a relay. The relay provides direct battery power to the starter solenoid when activated by the safety switch circuit. I have since seen a lot of start and run problems solved with the same solution.

The many safety switches on modern tractors are prone to failing or (worse) randomly acting up at which point they can present enough resistance to keep the starter solenoid from engaging properly and (in the case of a diesel) affecting fuel shut-off solenoids. The net result can be a hard-to-start or fails-to-keep-running situation that can come and go.

The relay fix is inexpensive and easy to do. For that reason I think it is worth trying to eliminate that possible source of problems. Again, this is not a problem exclusive to Cub or a particular model. Most of the safety micro-switched do not hold up well in outside applications. Trying to troubleshoot them is difficult since the problem can come and go. I hope this helps.






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 01-15-2016, 08:28 Post: 194328
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You need to clean ALL cable ends, not just at the battery.

It's been my experience that it's more often than not a bad connection to the starter itself or the ground cable.

The starter connections, being on the engine, seems to be particularly troublesome, especially in cold climates.

The engine warms it up, then as it cools off it attracts moisture / condensation and corrodes quicker than other connections.

I'd take apart every connection, clean them up and try again.


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