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How does a box scraper differ from a scraper blade

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2003-12-03          70163


I have a rear scraper blade and wondering if I need a box scraper? Is the only difference that you can put weight on a box scraper? If I were to get a box scraper, would there be any further use for the scraper blade?
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2003-12-03          70167


A box scraper also has rippers that can be adjusted. The box scraper is also generally heavier. I was amazed at the difference a box scraper made over a regular blade when trying to cut in to the sod. Currently, I am cutting some top soil off and I use the box scraper which rips the sod and then keeps the top soil bunched up in the blade which makes it easier to pick up with the loader.
Be careful when hooking up the box scraper, I heard about a guy who was hooking is box scraper up and was trying to hook the top link after all ready hooking up the lower links and was using the hydraulics to lift it up, but picked it up to fast and the rippers went into his rear tires puncturing them and he had to end up buying new ones. ....


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2003-12-03          70170


There are two main differences, and a third which is a by-product.

First and most critical is that a box-blade, as the name might suggest, has sides to it. This means loose material gathered in front of the blade stays there instead of just spilling off to the sides.

Secondly, and sometimes very importantly, it does not have any means by which you can swivel the blade, it is fixed perpendicular to the direction of travel. This has both pro's and con's to it. You cannot swivel the blade to bring material up off a shoulder and onto the driven portion of a driveway for instance. However, you can gather material from one place and drag it to another to be spread.

The spin off third difference is weight, the extra material required to build a box-blade means on average they weigh a lot more also. This means they will more readily bite into the ground, and can better compact spread material.

Generally the opinion seems to be nobody thinks they REALLY need a box-blade unitl they have one, then they use it for almost everything.

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TomG
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2003-12-03          70177


Yes, that would happen if the top link wasn't connected. I suppose anything can be forgotten under the right circumstances but you've got to wonder how or maybe why. The story does provide an excuse for me to make my favourite comment. Box scrapers and hydraulic top-links go together.

If there's a big budget, high-end blades have end-plate and scarifier options. They weigh a lot and also have all the tilts, angles and swings of a good blade--and even with hydraulics. That's probably the best of all worlds but as in all things best costs. Offsets are nice too and you can't really do serious ditching with a box. ....


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2003-12-03          70187


I have found uses for both types of blades. I seem to use the box scraper quite a bit less now that I have a backhoe. ....


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2003-12-04          70272


Tom is absolutely right about box scrapers and hydraulic top links going together. I figure the hydraulic top link triples my productivity when using the box scraper - no getting out of the seat to constantly adjust the blade angle. ....


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2003-12-06          70411


Each has it's place. Box blades are ideal for driveway maintenance and do a great job contouring dirt surfaces as they'll hold what they pick up rather than let it just spill off either side.

There are times when you'll want to angle a blade to move material off to one side (like snow removal) and they're great for that. If I were only able to buy one now, it'd be the box blade. I know a number of people who've welded up different ways to attach additional weight to them. One made a rack to accommodate suitcase weights and another added two rods so he could add barbell weights he already had.

Good luck with whatever you decide. I hope this helps. ;o) ....


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