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Bushman
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2003-09-11          63630


Has anyone used these braces for framing their barn roof? They look like the real deal, and are about the same cost when you put it all together as having trusses fabricated. The fella said I need 6 sets of them for a 40 ft long barn (1 every 8 feet). Please tell me what you guys think. Bushman


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Peters
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2003-09-11          63633


I have seen them used but not used them my self. I guess it would be similar to timber frame without the time require for framing. ....

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2003-09-11          63636


Looks to me that they would not be quite as strong as a conventional truss with respect to load bearing capacity but n the other hand would allow you to park tall vehicles and items in a barn built with this system. My boat would look real good in a barn with those type trusses! ;-) ....

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2003-09-11          63639


The guy said that setup would give me 30 lbs./Sq. Ft. snow load. I love the room it gives. You could put up 10 ft. walls and have a 12 ft, door if I see this thing right! The post and truss work are 6X6's and the purlins/girts would be the 2x6's. Like I said, the price would be real close, as I had scissor trusses priced out at $76/each and I need 21 of them. I appreciate the input guys! ....

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2003-09-11          63641


I'll have to look into these for the barn I want to build. The tall ceiling is very appealing! And it would be real easy to build a loft. ....

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TomG
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2003-09-12          63665


Looks like a good system for many areas. Before getting too enthusiastic, I'd check to see if it's code approved for a particular area.

The one thing I wonder about is what the snow load rating means--whether it's just the roof or includes side-thrusts on the walls. Perhaps the system includes accompanying wall construction. If it does, I'd imagine that a building with a loft would have a greater snow load rating since there be something near the top to tie the walls together. Engineers may not have a problem with the system but I can't help but wonder if the tie-bracing near the top of the gambrel roof actually removes significant side loading on the walls.

Maybe the deal is that you can't use this system with pole construction or maybe I just don't know what I talking about. I do know that the only structures you see around here without tie-beams across the top are small lean-to sheds and I put tie beams in one of ours because the walls were splaying.

I suspect that for fairly tall building in a place that gets some snow, you'd really want a loft so there'd be something to tie the walls together toward the top. Of course I can't get too enthusiastic myself since 30-lbs/ft. sq. isn't a starter for snow loading around here.
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2003-09-12          63676


I guess part of the attraction to the system is the ease of assembly not requiring a crane or boom.
Cost wise the metal trusses that I used for my barn (see pictures) cost around 1,100 dollars for 60 x 42 ft barn on 12 foot centers. This gives you the complete truss that mounts on posts. The trusses disassemble in the middle so you can install yourself but it is tough with out a ctane. ....

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2003-09-12          63686


Code approval is key. In our area they won't even consider issuing a building permit without a complete set of engineering load calculations signed off on by a PE.
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2003-12-14          71149


I did some research and Socket system don't want get involved the Siesmic zone code engineering side.
I finally decided to come up with my own design, 6 x 6 post, but not SS style. as it seem most of the local pole barn builders have pre-engineer stuff that doesn't meet my needs. I'll have to pay to get some engineering calc. done to get the plans stamped, but even at that I'll save about half and get what I want. bjr2351 ....

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