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Argonaut
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2020-05-16          199172


I always think of tillers as good for garden use, but can or should they be used for lawn renovation? Where you have a leveling problem in the existing area.

My fear is that the yard has lots of stone and while tilling would help would it create more work in the end?

Probably a rock hound would be ideal ? but very costly? And do way too much damage to viable surrounding turf .


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2020-05-17          199185


if you have a tractor i would try a grader blade at the least,you may get a few bent tines in a rocky area with a tiller not to mention beating it to death ....

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2020-05-18          199191


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I always think of tillers as good for garden use, but can or should they be used for lawn renovation? Where you have a leveling problem in the existing area.My fear is that the yard has lots of stone and while tilling would help would it create more work in the end?Probably a rock hound would be ideal ? but very costly?


I would say it depends. What are you trying to do? Do you need to begin again? Or you needing to just do some leveling or want a new or different grass?

Reading about the rocks would say go slow with the tiller, period. Unless I wanted to begin with a total clean dirt would pass on the filler and with the rocks sure I would. If you are wanting to open it up for reseeding a landscape rake will work depending on what is growing there now. If too think for landscaping rake take a disk and set the blades almost totally straight and pull it reasonably slow again some due to the rocks. If it needs leveling would recommend bringing in dirt that is both easy to spread and good soil and use box blade or real blade to pull the dirt again slow enough it has time to drop into the low areas. IF YOU CAN GET A PULL BEHIND BLADE and not one on the 3pth it will work much better. If not I would prefer a rear blade slightly turn to right or left so it move the dirt sideways some for me it levels better and does not spill dirt around both ends. Then you may need to pull something fine such as weighted chain link fence across it to fine tune it. ....

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2020-05-19          199206


kthompson, what would you recommend as the best easiest method for about one acre of lawn out in Indiana corn fields that the moles and/or whatever other burrowing critters have dug miles of tunnels and left so many hills you can't ride a lawn tractor more than a few feet in any direction without getting whiplash. I'm no farmer and have no extensive knowledge or experience with this problem. I'm just out here on my small patch staying away from the cities. I've already got a bad back and knees and shoulders and worse neck vertebrae, 3 are shot, so I am looking for the best machine I can hopefully afford to rent to do the work for me. I'm not worried about screwing up the grass a bit as the critters and insects have already done extensive damage, I just don't want to rip it all out. It is putting me in physical pain from one mowing session to the next and I can't afford the surgery or $7,000 nerve block shots for my neck. Thanks in advance for any helpful information. ....

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2020-05-19          199210


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....3 are shot,


Hi Terry,
When you say 3 are shot do you mean 3 moles are shot. Or on you personally have 3 things that trouble you?

I ask because work on your yard will not bear any improvement if the underlying issue is not resolved.

When I was a kid we had a beautiful lawn that was being attacked by skunks. We unfortunately shot the skunks. That was not the problem. The problem was we had thousands of grubs that the skunks were eating.

So you need to figure out whether you have moles or gophers. If you have grubs, you probably have moles as they love them, not so with gophers.

There are various approaches once you know what you have. ....

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Terry60
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2020-05-20          199218


I mean I have 3 neck vertebrae that are damaged and the millions of bumps in the acre of lawn are causing severe pain. The underlying problem is grubs which attracted their diners and the grubs are being treated for in the next few days by Trugreen. The evidence I see is raised furrows all over the lawn from their tunnels pushing up the soil and grass above as they tunnel and then the grass dies. Also, they leave sizeable mounds of dirt where they pile their tailings all over the yard. My soil appears to be a mix of clay and sand and black dirt. The clay makes these pile set up like cement wen it dries and I would rather use machines to deal with trying to level that out. I don't know if there is a machine specifically designed to deal with a situation like this, one where it can loosen and spread high soil without tearing up the grass too much as you drive the machine around the yard, I don't know if it would be something like a slit seeder/overseeder with blades set to a certain depth to catch the high mounds and skim over the level grass areas? I'm guessing at a design I hope exists. I've never used a slit seeder/over seeder so I have only read about them. ....

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DennisCTB
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2020-05-20          199221


I think they call that Miami soil where you live?

Probably nice digging for the moles ;-(

I read somewhere that when using pesticides for grubs it is best for any thatch to be removed first and even aerated as well. Ask Trugreen how long you need to wait before disturbing the surface as you could undo the treatment through your efforts.

I remember years ago seeing a home owner driving a HIGHWAY PAVEMENT ROLLER over his yard to flatten the mounds, quite the luxury or added expense.

Moles also like worms, so moles may linger.

For a chuckle on Moles check out this video that questions if moles are a pest or a friend. No friend of mine for sure.

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2020-05-20          199224


Terry, sorry about the back issue and the other aches.

If I am following you correctly it sounds like the yard is basically in good condition and graded fine. Just the hills to be taken care of. If so a small tractor with a box blade or maybe even a landscaping rake if it will break up the mounds should do it. Just take it SLOW so the dirt if it will fill the hole. You will do well probably to work two directions at angle to the first trip.

If you use a box blade set it so it is just missing the level dirt and if possible say 1/2 inch off the ground. That way you will only hit the high spots.

You may have a neighbor who can do this for a very reasonable price. A great way to make friends.

Hey, if you have something that will pull it and not damage your lawn take two chains and hook to a flat board of size say a 2 by 8 and pull it flat across your lawn. Long piece of metal such as heavy angle iron would work better due to the edge on it and weight. You do need the item to have weight so it will not just ride over the high spots. They can amaze you for such. Will take more than one trip with that. ....

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2020-05-21          199231


One of these are better...
https://ibexequipment.com/equipment/power-harrows/ibex-tx41-power-harrow/ ....

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2020-05-22          199246


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One of these are better...https://ibexequipment.com/equipment/power-harrows/ibex-tx41-power-harrow/


What kind of price is it? Bet it would work good if limited rocks and roots. ....

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2020-05-22          199256


https://tractortoolsdirect.com/ibex-tx40-power-harrow/?mc_cid=7e8c1ec70d&mc_eid=a064e75abe ....

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