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Woodie
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2008-02-10          151221


Have a problem -snowdrifts in under my 10ft slider door at times creating a wonderful mess :-( . I'm faced sometimes with a 2-3 foot wide 4 inch deep pile to shovel out. granted i know its 'the barn' and 'dirt/messes happen' there,just don't need any extra to clean up. I've got about a 1/4 inch gap at the bottom of slider and edge of floor. Any ideas of what might possbily can be use to block and still allow ease of movement of door? also any ideas on weathersealing the other edges of the slider.

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2008-02-11          151229


Big hardware stores sell "garage-door weatherstrip," typically a roll of vinyl about 4" high, that you can attach to both sides. What with rubbing and mice, won't last forever, but it's pretty cost effective. ....

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hardwood
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2008-02-11          151230


Woodie; if you have got the gap down to a quarter inch, then you have it about as good as it's going to get. Sliding doors aren't known for being absolute weather tight, they have to have a certain amount of cleareance fo function. There may be some way of attaching some sort of weatherstrip around it, I've never seen it done, but might be worth a try. Maybe something as simple as throwing an old piece of carpet along the crack will do it, don'r know. Frank. ....

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Murf
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2008-02-11          151236


I used to have the same problem with my aircraft hangar doors, a strip of heavy rubber nailed to the backside of the door bottom, then passing under the door and outside solved the problem.

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candoarms
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2008-02-11          151241


Woodie,

I've seen many button operated weather seals for smaller doors.

When the doors close, they make contact with a button that pushes the weather seal down. When the doors begin to open, the pressure on the button is released, and the weather seal pops back up.

It's a simple system. I don't believe it would be very difficult to make one to fit your doors.

It's made of metal arms that push down when a cam strikes the arms. The cam is attached to a movable rod. The rod protrudes just beyond the door opening. The exposed rod end forms the button. When the doors close, the button is depressed, which in turn pushes the rod in, away from the door opening. This rod moves over about an inch, which pushes a series of cams over against the lever arms, which forces them down.

At the opposite end of the rod, there's a fairly heavy compression spring, which is compressed when the doors close. When the doors open, this spring forces the rod back, lifting the weather seal up and away from the floor.

With a system like this, your weather seal never wears out, as it doesn't slide along the floor. It makes contact with the floor only for about the last inch of travel.

I'm sure you'd be able to build one easily enough.

Joel ....

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2008-02-11          151246


If you have to access the doors from the outside this will not work but if you are opening from the inside you could hinge a board on the bottom of the door that you let flop on the floor with the door are closed. If an issue you could place a small latch to hold it up when you open the door. Or if you open from the inside of the door, there are latchs that pull the door to the building that will give you room to clear the seals when sliding but seal when you lcok the latches. Those work about like chain binder does. kt ....

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2008-02-11          151262


Auer, Frank, Murf, Joel and KT-Hey thanks for all the suggestions. Sometimes you get a brain freze and can't think out of the box. Kept seeing the same stuff at the big box stores with the nail strips of felt, or vinyl tuby and the garage doorstrips with the angled flap. I figured you folks here on the chat board would have had "real workable solution/s" worked out already or knew of something that would fit the bill.
Once the weather warms to over 30 degrees i might go and work on the door. This 7-10 degree stuff just a wee bit too cold for mind or spirit. I can hear Joel...saying thats a warm spell ... he he:-)
Again Appreciate all the ideas-help. Woodie ....

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2008-02-12          151272


Woodie, "7 - 10 degrees", "brain freeze"; makes sense to me. :)

Happens to me at much higher temps. kt ....

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2008-02-13          151319


Kenny you'll be happy to know that here yesterday with the wind chill factor it was 27 degrees below. (Kenny, that means below freezing) ....

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2008-02-13          151320


EW; Now there is a reason for us old timers to kinda ride herd on you younins, so "Splain yerself", (that is Iowegan), a bit here. Freezing is +32 F, so minus 27 means it was five above, that would be like a day at the beach here. Now maybe you new math people are using Celcus or the Kelvin scale??? I know I spelled Celcus wrong, but wahada ya spect from an old guy? ....

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2008-02-13          151322


Well,

The weather here is about the same as it has been since December 1st.

Details for Wednesday
Bitterly cold. Periods of snow. High -2F. Winds E at 10 to 20 mph. Snow accumulating 3 to 5 inches. Wednesday night: Mainly cloudy with snow showers around before midnight. Cold. Dangerous wind chills as low as -40F. Low near -20F. Winds NNE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 50%. Snow accumulating 1 to 3 inches.

intellicast.com

I'll be heading out to the barn in just a bit to start the Knipco heater. I've got to get the driveway cleaned out so that we can at least get the cars in and out of the yard. Right now, the yard is so full of snow that I'm not sure my wife will be able to get out.

I'll have my jacket zipped up today. hehehe.

Joel ....

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Murf
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2008-02-13          151323


Joel, I don't know if you already know about this trick or not, but we used to do a lot of snow removal on open station machines and quickly realized there's no better way to keep your head (all of it) warm and dry than by wearing a snowmobile helmet.

If you want to get really fancy you can even get the nicer ones with a tube to vent your breath out of the helmet, and an electric defogger in the visor.

It sure makes a difference in windy situations, or when the snow comes back at you from the discharge chute of the blower.

BTW, those 12 volt heated mitts and boot warmers are great for keeping the chill off too.

Best of luck. ....

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2008-02-13          151327


sounds like the weather strip is solved, but ya'll gotta be crazy going out in those temps,

I cancelled a camping trip for this weekend cause night temps are supposed to be around 35 and day temps at 45-50

I will be snuggly in front of the fireplace this weekend...ha ha
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2008-02-13          151328


Murf,

I don't own any of that stuff. I have on a pair of long-johns, some wool socks, a pair of Danner boots, a stocking cap, some wool mitts, and a good Carhartt jacket with a hood.

Tried the snowmobile helmet once, but I didn't like the visor fogging up.....so I ditched it. When the snow stings my face, I switch to a ski-mask and a pair of safety goggles. I'll be going with the stocking cap today.....in blaze orange...of course. hehehe. All of my hunting clothes match the color of my tractor.....or the other way around.

Joel ....

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2008-02-13          151332


Well friends,

It appears that the weather forecast has been revised yet again, and for the worse.

It's currently 16 below zero and snowing at the rate of one inch per hour. It's been snowing all day. The wind is blowing out of the northeast at 20 miles per hour.

But, today is actually a very nice day, when compared to what's coming our way. Thursday evening we're expecting temperatures to fall to -32 degrees.....with wind chills in the -45 degree range. And with the wind blowing to about 20 miles per hour tomorrow, we can expect to see snow drifts to about 5 or 6 feet deep around here.

It looks to be a very cold day for moving snow. I might have to put on my coveralls for the next trip down the driveway.

Global Warming? Don't believe it, folks. It's all a bunch of garbage.

Details for Thursday
Bitterly cold. Intervals of clouds and sunshine. High -9F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday night: Bitterly cold. A few clouds. Low -32F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.

http://www.intellicast.com

Joel

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Link:   Intellicast weather forecasting (nice weather site)

 
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2008-02-14          151347


Will not even pretend to know what those temps are like other that getting something out of our freezer.

Joel, I have used a face shield like for a work shop for such as it will help block direct wind, a bigger problem with wind from behind you and may help or make it worse on a side wind but they are open to where moisture does not normally build up. Of course you could just choose not to breath while wearing it. Understand that would prevent the moisture build up. kt

Feel the need to put a warning here: do not try that while operating equipement until you know how not breather will affect your response time. ....

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2008-02-14          151351


KThompson,

The problems I deal with are often debated right here within the home. Do I go out and clean the driveway while the wind is blowing, at -10 degrees -- or wait until the wind dies down and then tackle the project when it's 40 below zero?

I don't like to operate my equipment in the extreme cold. It's just not good for the machinery. NOTHING likes to move in these extremely cold temperatures. Mechanical devices can be forced to turn, but I don't like it when the vehicles talk back to me........and oh....they do make some awful sounds.

It's currently 20 degrees below zero. The wind is fairly calm. It might be a good day to go out and clean the driveway, but now I don't have the wind to help me move the snow when I blow it. With the wind blowing, the snowblower moves the snow nearly twice as far.

We haven't had any melting days since the middle of November. The weather man says we hit 32 degrees once since November 15th, but only for an hour or two. The snow is beginning to pile up around here.

I'm beginning to look forward to the mosquitoes and biting flies. I've about had my fill with winter.

My hot peppers are now two inches tall. I'm growing them in pots in the living room window. I look forward to the day when I transplant them outside.....on or around Memorial Day. (We had three inches of snow on Memorial Day last year, and I lost about a dozen plants because of it.)

Joel ....

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2008-02-14          151353


Joel, sounds like you need a taller discharge chute, if one is not readily available from the manufacturer or your dealer, they can be easily made.

We have several of our machines equipped with 6' (or more) discharge chutes, it makes a big difference for certain jobs. An adjustable top end is good too, it allows you to adjust the angle of the snow as it exits the chute on the fly.

We use them for things like loading dump trucks with snow, or clearing snow over banks, but then almost straight down again to avoid collateral damage from flying ice chunks and such.

Best of luck. ....

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