goose neck trailer tow rate: Tractor Safety  -- General Tractor Discussion Forum and Review goose neck trailer tow rate: Tractor Safety -- General Tractor Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Tractor Safety Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 02-29-2004, 00:23 Post: 78230
liljoe



Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: maryland
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 23
 goose neck trailer tow rate

help!!! i am looking at a horse trailer which weights 9000lbs empty add 5 horses and it weighs approx. 15000lbs
pounds. can a 1994 ford f350 powerstroke dually 4x4 5 speed
safely hauls this much trailer? i cannot find any ratings of this type thanks joe






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-29-2004, 14:48 Post: 78273
Peters

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northern AL
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3034

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

My truck has the towing package and camper package. It is listed at 13,900 max. I doubt that the older Ford was that high. The newer Fords and Dodge are up to 16,000 but it would depend on the state whether you can legally tow that much.
In this state the Farm applications reduce the restrictions but I would think you would be better with a larger truck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 02-29-2004, 16:01 Post: 78276
2footroper



Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Northern Illinois
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 15

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

liljoe
I agree with what Peters said. Also you may want to check your goose neck hitch rating. Many older ones are only rated for 10,000 pounds.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-01-2004, 12:56 Post: 78395
Chief



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Southwest MiddleTennessee
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4280

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

liljoe, the 15,000 lbs. definitely exceeds the published tow rating capacity of your truck. That having been said, I see folks towing horse trailers such as yours with similar vehicles on a regular basis.

In my opinion if you equip your truck with a gooseneck hitch rated for this much weight; (i.e B&W's Turn Over Ball gooseneck hitch is rated for 30,000 lbs. towing and 7,500 lbs. tongue weight)that should address the hitch capacity issue. I am sure other makes of hitches have similar ratings and your current hitch may as well. Contact the manufacturer of your current hitch for this info. I posted a link to B&W hitches to give you an idea of hitch ratings and idea of working weights.

GVWR is another issue. Does the loaded trailer and your truck as equipped exceed its GVWR? If so, this is most likely do to braking ability but is also a matter of transmission/power train capability. If you are close to or exceed this weight; an exhaust brake may help make up the braking performance gap. With your trucks 5 speed manual trans., an exhaust brake will be particularly effective. Exhaust brakes are a bit pricey but very much worth it if you pull heavy.

To give you an idea of what can be safely pulled; a friend pulles a 18 ft. goose neck trailer with his Gehl 6635 and a cord of wood on more than an occasional basis. The Gehl 6635 is a little over 8,000 lbs., the wood is approx. 4,000 lbs. and the trailer is approx. 4,000 lbs. (maybe a bit more). I have ridden with him pulling this particular load in his 1999 Dodge Cummins powered 3500 that is equipped with the NV4500 5 speed. The truck handles this load VERY adequately and with modest effort. His truck has the Jacobs exhaust brake which HUGELY enhances braking power. He uses the "Jac Brake" until the truck is down to a around 20 - 25 mph. From that point the truck and trailer brakes are used. At cruise speed, the "Jac Brake", vehicle & trailer brakes are also VERY effective and responsive. This combination puts his GVRW at approx. 23,000 lbs. which is just under the 23,500 lb. GVWR (if I am not mistaken on the GVWR for this truck)

Take a look at your hitch capacity, your trucks tow capactiy, AND your trucks GVWR. I am pretty sure you can work up a combination that will work for you. Let me preface all of the above that this is my opinion and the weight combinations as I understand them. With some caution and conservative operations, I think you will do fine with your truck and trail. Just take her slow and easy.









Link:   click here 

Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-01-2004, 15:07 Post: 78407
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7044
 goose neck trailer tow rate

Joe, I think you need to re-check how much that trailer weighs empty.

I have a REALLY heavy (all steel) tri-axle trailer for hauling our Belgians around, it weighs a little over 4,000 pounds, I find it hard to believe that your trailer weighs more than double that much.

I suspect that what you are looking at is the GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) rating which is the MAXIMUM weight the suspension can carry, including it's own weight.

The CURB (Tare) weight is the number you are confusing it with. The trailer probably only weighs about 3,000 pounds, which together with 5 horses at another 6,000 pounds would come to 9,000 pounds, the maximum weight it can carry.

Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-01-2004, 15:15 Post: 78408
Chief



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Southwest MiddleTennessee
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4280

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

That is a good point Murf! I was thinking that was a mighty heavy trailer. I am not a horse person so I was thinking it was one of those big show horse trailers with the A/C and camper section built into it.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-01-2004, 18:39 Post: 78429
Peters

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northern AL
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3034

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

Ditto Chief, although I have the Sundowner cats and I don't thing they make on that will haul 5 horses and have large camper.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-01-2004, 20:56 Post: 78453
2footroper



Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Northern Illinois
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 15

2
Filter by User
 goose neck trailer tow rate

Hey guys,
I have a 4 horse trailer with a full living quarters, A/C bath, shower, kitchen, etc. It is 28ft. on the floor. Steel frame aluminum skin. The GVRW on it is 10,000 lbs. I pull it with a 1999 F250 super duty w/ the Power stroke and the auto trans. The only things I did to the truck was add 1 leaf to the rear springs and reprogramed the computer. I haven't had a bit of problems pulling all over the country. Even thru the hills of Missouri. I do have the B & W hitch on the truck. It does a great job and I,ve pulled in all kinds of weather.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 03-03-2004, 06:26 Post: 78577
wallac



Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pennsylvannia
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 70
 goose neck trailer tow rate

Go to this web site www.trailerlife.com and you will see

Also you asked if the truck could handle it, It comes down to the driver being able to handle the truck that can handle the load.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Tractor Safety Forum

Thread 78230 Filter by Poster:
2footroper 2 | Chief 2 | liljoe 1 | Murf 1 | Peters 2 | wallac 1 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
videorov

Belarus - How do I get this part off the tractor so I can install a new one
How do I get this part off the tractor so I can install a new one


Unanswered Questions

Shibaura SD2203 rear axle oil
Mitsubishi MX55
Gator HPX ignition module
SL 1643
Removing LHS rear wheel beari
Gear Grinding 1200A - primary
Replacing a friction diskwashe
Bolens k1502 mitsubishi K3 ove


Active Subjects

Big country 4x2 utility vehicl
Operation
lift cylinder for 3pt hitch wo
Still have jerk in hydro
Flatulent gifts human and dog
front mount snowblower
Hydraulics Won t Work
4210 ehydro codes


Hot Topics

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Case 446 hydraulic pump
Long 460 hydraulic problem
Jinma Tractor w transmission p
Flatulent gifts human and dog
Generator set up ideas wanted
6X4 Gator Sometimes Shudders
Roof VP75 Brush Mower Manual


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ Tractor Roll Over Safety
+ Tractor Theft Prevention Techniques
+ utility pole guy wires
+ Tractor tipping
+ What s the least tippy on slopes a Garden Tractor
+ Replacement seat belts
+ Freaked out about rollovers
+ Poison Ivy Remedies
+ ROAD GRADE
+ Kubota Keys being sold on E-bay

Most Discussion

+ Freaked out about rollovers
+ Tractor Roll Over Safety
+ Living in the Fire Zone
+ utility pole guy wires
+ Tractor tipping
+ HELP Snake in the house
+ Tractor Theft Prevention Techn
+ Poison Ivy Remedies
+ Tractor went out of gear
+ UPDATE - Snake in the House

Newest Topics

+ Lift pins comes loose
+ jd 5220 clutch peddle adjustment
+ ROAD GRADE
+ DRIVE COGS
+ Man Dies in Skidsteer Accident
+ Replacement seat belts
+ How old is new
+ Playing Nice
+ Relative Fuel Safely
+ Poll How many have removed the rear PTO guard
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines