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 11-08-2007, 16:27 Post: 148000
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Has anyone used one of these belly blades made by Grouser?
Looks pretty slick. Have to wonder how it works though.





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 11-08-2007, 17:03 Post: 148001
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I've never used one of those, but I have used something similar, they are better than a 3pth mounted blade, but not as god as a trailing or towed blade.

The whole concept of a road grader is that the long wheelbase and the bridge effect takes out most of the undulations of bumps in the ground, a walking rear suspension goes a long way to helping also. Putting a blade like that on such a short wheelbase doesn't make much sense to me.

From what I know of the price of them I could buy lots of alternatives (that would work on any tractor) and have plenty of change left over.

One of the gadgets I'm working on at the moment is a converter which will allow anyone with a BB to use it as a tow-behind grader, complete with side to side pitch control, and the possibility of laser grade controls too.

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 11-08-2007, 17:30 Post: 148002
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Funny you mention laser controls...are you developing it from the ground up? I've been thinking of a system I could easily adapt to my bobcat compatible with my DeWalt 2-diode laser. I have no clue where to start, and never had experience with one.

The towable box blade--like that. How about a design "wrinkle" that would be a cross between a towable design and a standard 3pt type: a pivoting 3pt adapter that would articulate like a front end loader does in the vertical axis. This would allow the box blade, disk, plow brushcutter to follow like a trailer. Haven't experimented with it but in my mind I can see it working.
Thoughts anyone?






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 11-09-2007, 09:47 Post: 148028
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EW, we certainly seem to be one the same page!! Wink yeah right

The system I am developing mounts to the standard 3pth to form a tongue by which to drag it as well as level fore & aft. There is also a rear portion which both forms gauge wheels and gives the ability to level the BB side to side.

I've never used the DeWalt system, but it doesn't matter, it's just a matter of having the electric output from the system activate 12volt valves.

My system would also allow you to run a 3pth BB on the front or rear of a SSL, again using the spacer to gain length and form the bridge effect, as well as giving you gauge wheels. As long as you didn't turn sharp corners, or were running an ASV track type of SSL forward facing /front mounted would work just fine.

Everything is Murphy Built from the ground up but will accept any 'standard' 3pth implement.

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 11-10-2007, 21:04 Post: 148088
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The laser is the type used for general grading and construction---nothing special. The electronic reciever is the same DeWalt item---all it does is beeps and shows an LCD up/down/level arrow when the laser beam hits it. Has no outputs whatsoever. Any ideas?

Did I understand you right that you are mounting a BB on the back of SSL? I mounted one on the front and it worked great! I have pictures of compacted clay I was removing from our gravel road that looks like ribbon candy shooting out the top of the box as I could get really good traction and speed with the SSL. And that a fairly small machine I had at the time.






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 11-11-2007, 10:19 Post: 148097
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Hmmmm...... something like this?

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 11-12-2007, 10:24 Post: 148131
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EW, yes, the system would allow the unit to be used in front or behind a SSL. The laser system receiver would require an external output of some form, or else a LED output and some optical sensors, LCD doesn't emit any light, so it won't work. It would be possible however to make a sensor which detected the beeping, but it would likely be easier to just have separate receiver which would work with any laser, they are standard over the counter items these days.

Mark, very close indeed, but yours looks like it requires the BB to be customized a bit to take the rear wheels. My system will use a standard BB, RB or even rake.

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 11-12-2007, 12:39 Post: 148139
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That's because you be the engineer and I be just a garage jury-rigger.

I couldn't quite make it level itself laterally and had to use the the 3 point hitch to maintain level in the longitudinal axis.

That said, I will be VERY interested in what you come up with.






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 11-12-2007, 13:08 Post: 148141
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Ah, but even as a garage jury-rigger, you made it work!!

My idea doesn't use the 3pth to pull from, only as a power source / control for certain functions, but rather it's pulled by the swinging drawbar which is a bit safer place to pull a load like this from.

In my concept the 3pth raises and lowers the blade by pulling a cable, hydraulic remotes will either tilt blade fore / aft, or side to side, or both if you have dual remotes. If you have no remotes then it can only be adjusted up & down.

The aim is to make it simple enough that it will neither be complicated nor expensive to make, nor hard to use for average reasonably competent operator, i.e. the weekend warrior type.

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Going back to the road (motor)grader idea having spread out axles and walking-beam which cuts in half any up and down motion at the rear wheels, Rankin would it have been better to have mounted the BB 1/3 to 1/2 back the length of the trailer hitch beam/tube? Or is there a reason that you mounted is so far back?






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