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 07-29-2005, 15:54 Post: 114091
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This coming winter will be my second at my new house. It has a fairly steep drive to get to the house. I own a JD 4310 with a FEL and industrial tires. Tires are not loaded and I do not have wheel weights. I have weight via three point hitch, but this doesn't seem to provide satisfactory traction. I would like to use a blade, so that eliminates my three point hitch weight.

What would be a normal set up considering the above that one would suggest.






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 07-29-2005, 16:02 Post: 114092
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The down & dirty way to do it is to make up, or have made up for you, a setup like in my picture # 15.

With some weight on the 3pth, I use a 1,000 pound box blade, and the FEL frame in the air as in the picture, you should have enough traction to plow downhill with no problem, and uphill in light to moderate snows, or heavy but dry snows.

As with your machine, the only weights I have are what is on either the FEL or 3pth.

Best of luck.






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 07-30-2005, 20:19 Post: 114131
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I have r-4 with loaded tires with my 790 and have a similar problem. R 4 are not very good in snow reguardless of weight.
I eliminated all traction problems with a set of tight automotive tire chains for the 14 x 8 r4 fronts ( you do not want to catch a tie rod/use many bungees)and a expensive set for the rear r4 "o"ring
no spin and it saves the tires to boot.






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 08-01-2005, 12:24 Post: 114187
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I also have a 4310 with R4's. Last winter was my first using it for clearing snow. I used a 6ft blade on the 3-pt and the loader. I do not have loaded tires. I had no problems going up or down my driveway (on a hill) while using the blade. All I did was make sure the MFWD was activated.

I did not have a heavy wet snow to clear, so I can't speak for that. But the MFWD was the big difference over my old 2wd tractor.






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 08-01-2005, 12:26 Post: 114188
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I forgot to mention that my drive is all gravel. Pretty crappy gravel, but not paved. The slicker surface of pavement may make a difference. I plan on adding a concrete pad in front of the garage before the snow flies. That may make a difference in my opinion of not using weight.






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 08-01-2005, 17:31 Post: 114199
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My #9 photo shows a home made set that is installed LOOSE so the chains will move on the tires.

I've only been challenged a couple of times not to back up any of the drives I do and I do 1 very steep one for the neighbor.

There is a lot of steel in this set.






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 08-01-2005, 20:07 Post: 114213
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Thanks to all your help. Being my first post, I am quite surprised to find so many people trying to help. But Jazak5, you only have the chains on the front tires and all the tires loaded? I forgot to mention that the drive is concrete. Assuming that you have a concrete drive, does the chains mark the drive. I thought maybe just chains on the front might be a good choice. Do you use the blade a majority of the time? It seems like that would be a reasonable approach by not using the FEL doesn't unload the front weight as it seemed to do in float mode.






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 08-02-2005, 09:24 Post: 114231
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A word of caution about using chains on all 4 wheels.

A 4WD CUT has a difference in the front gearing over the rear, typically the front has a lead of about 5%, in other words, if the rear is doing exactly 5 mph, or 146.67' per minute, the front will be doing 5% more, or 154' per minute, a differnce of about 7'4" in one minute.

This doesn't sound like much, but when you combine too much traction, such as driving on a hard surface, or with chains on the tires, there is not much opportunity for wheel slippage to take up that 7'4" difference every 60 seconds.

The result will likely be accelerated wear on the driveline.

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 08-02-2005, 10:45 Post: 114236
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Murf,

I know you wrote on this before that using chains on a hard surface works against the principle of chains, as chains need to sink into something to get bite, concrete offers no bite.

You will probably get some occassion marking on the concrete also.






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 08-02-2005, 11:59 Post: 114239
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Dennis, you are right of course.

But I suspect that any hard surface would give enough resistance to cause a problem.

If nothing else the lead/lag would cause some serious scratches in the finish of the concrete.

We plowed for years on turfs without any traction aids. Now that we plow on R4's we are seeing unprecedented tire wear.

Best of luck.






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