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 11-25-2003, 09:34 Post: 69574
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 New TC29 Smokes

My TC29 arrived last week. Now have 4 hrs on it. At startup it coughs sputters and really smokes. It sits in the garage at 50 degrees. It fills up the whole place with grey smoke. Called the dealer, "all 29's do that". Anyone else have this problem or should I just live with it?
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 11-25-2003, 09:57 Post: 69577
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 New TC29 Smokes

My 4410 smokes a little upon start up but cleans up fast as it warms up to full operating temp. It has gotten better about this as the engine has accumulated more hours (currently 94 hrs.) and broken in. Give it some time to break in and I would expect this to improve. I also bump the rpm up a 100 - 200 rpm once the engine has started and idle settles to aid the warm up as recommended in the owner's manual. It is normal for a diesel to smoke a bit upon start up and until it has warmed up enough to properly burn the fuel. A good fuel additive which raises the cetane value of the fuel can also help lessen the amount of smoke as well.






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 11-25-2003, 10:18 Post: 69578
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I agree with what Chief said. My tractor warms up smoother and quieter with a little extra RPMs as well. As far as fairly heavy smoke, I don't think it should smoke for more than a few seconds when it's only 50*F.

One question though have you checked the low idle? See if it is idling lower than what it says it should in the manual. My tractor idled a little slow when I got it. It was a simple turn on the throttle mechanisism ( 5 minutes tops)to put it right at spec.






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 11-25-2003, 11:21 Post: 69588
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You will find help with a fuel additive. If you can find it use a clean-up dose of Red Line 85 Plus. It really works.






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 11-25-2003, 12:26 Post: 69592
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 New TC29 Smokes

My 2000 TC29 does smoke some at start-up, certainly more than my friend's new TC40. It really isn't noticeably outside, but in the barn or after dark (the lights really make the smoke show up) it is. Mine has about 500 hours now, and did settle down a little from when it was first bought.
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 11-25-2003, 16:33 Post: 69608
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 New TC29 Smokes

White or gray smoke from a diesel on a cold start is completely normal.






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 11-25-2003, 19:45 Post: 69623
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Many diesels won't warm up to operating temp at slow idle and they'll continue to smoke. On a cold day my 1710 could sit for an hour and never come up to operating temp. In fact it'll cool down below operating temp if left at slow idle for long. I warm mine at around 1500 rpm after a few seconds at around 800 to give a chance for the oil pressure to come up and the diesel knock to lessen. It starts easier and runs smoother right off if I give it 1/2 - 3/4 throttle on cold days.

Mine starts with a puff of gray and then just a bit till it warms but I'm running mostly #1 diesel this time of year and that may smoke less. It will give a puff of gray on acceleration even when warm but that's normal for most engines. If valve clearances and injector timing is set at the 50-hour servicing it may smoke a little less but from the description it's probably normal for a new engine, but a shed filling with smoke may be a bit excessive.






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 11-25-2003, 22:40 Post: 69644
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"At startup it coughs sputters and really smokes. It sits in the garage at 50 degrees. It fills up the whole place with grey smoke."

I dunno' fellas, he's talking about it behaving this way at 50*F. How's it going to be at 5*F? I would make sure everything is fine (fuel, idle speed, etc) and if it keeps up I would let the dealer have a look, why not?

I can't see ALL TC29's behaving that way at 50 degrees, especially the coughing and sputtering part. Doesn't sound right.






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 11-25-2003, 23:33 Post: 69649
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That is exactly the way my 4100 acted. A dose of 85 Plus had it purring like a kitten and reduced the smoke by at least 95 percent.

When I got the 4115 home it was very stinky/smoky also and had a high pitched, ear splitting rattle. 85 Plus fixed that too.

It doesn't quite purr like the 4100 did, but it only has 30 hours on the clock and I expect it will improve. At least I can stand next to it without wearing ear protection now.






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 11-25-2003, 23:38 Post: 69650
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Mine tractor souns fine, even quiet..well next to my straight-piped PSD that is Smile

I actually am surprised how quiet the tractor is, it makes much less noise than my gas lawn tractor.






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