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 08-29-2003, 18:52 Post: 62885
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

I have a TC35D with a 16LA loader, would like to know if anybody moves big round bales with them,mine is having a hard time lifting a 1800lb bale from the 3pt when it is rated at 2025lbs. Not sure what I need to move them with, would like something for the loader. Can they really lift what the specs say.






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 08-29-2003, 19:09 Post: 62890
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

I've read that some guys with NH TC series tractors have found they don't lift to specs. Almost always they seem to find that the hydraulic pressure was incorrectly adjusted during manufacture and they aren't building sufficient pressure to do the job. The adjustment is supposed to be easy if you have a suitable pressure gauge and the right adjustment procedure but I can't help you there.






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 08-29-2003, 20:42 Post: 62892
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Maybe the bales vary in weight and they weigh closer to 2100lbs???

Just trying to be an optimist Smile






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 08-30-2003, 06:16 Post: 62903
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Weight ratings often are defined as 'weight centered 2' behind the lower link pins. There's a good change that the weight of the bales is further from the pins than 2'.

I think my 3ph will lift more than its rating but the rating is as much a safety thing regarding stability than a physical limitation. My 3ph forklift will lift higher than the 3ph and when I've had big weight on it I've had to run max rpm's to get appreciable lift speed out of the 3ph. Increasing the rpm night help the lift or making sure the bales are as far forward as possible.

I don't think any compact handles those big bales very well. They are awkward as well as heavy. The 3ph likely would manage them better than anything on a loader and I wouldn't want that much weight very high on a compact anyway. A loader is going to run into the same rating capacity definition thing because the bale would end up further ahead of the boom arms than a bucket would be. Very heavy 3ph ballast would be needed.

I'm tempted to say that something like my forklift might manage them. It will out lift the 3ph and also lift more than 5'. That may not be a great solution since the forklift weighs 650 lbs. itself. It is a CATII implement and maybe a lighter one could be found. Don't know! I be reluctant to put more weight on the axles than the 3ph rating frequently. the previous owner of my Ford 1710 traded it in on a farm tractor because he started getting big bales and the 1710 couldn't manage them easily. Something like a stoneboat might manage but would be a pain.






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 08-30-2003, 07:47 Post: 62914
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

If you don't go through a tremendous ammount of bales have the bale placed in the bed of your pickup when you pick one up. Take the tailgate off and when they're placed on end a lil' tap on the brakes while in reverse will roll them right where you want them. Obviously this won't work so well if you have a bunch of animals and want to store many round bales but otherwise it should work until you have a more permanent solution.

My friends with small/no tractors do this and that would be my choice as well with my compact.






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 08-30-2003, 08:26 Post: 62916
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bj I have a TC33D and it seems very common that the NH loaders come from the factory with the valve settings too low. Mine was over 300lbs psi too low. I had the dealer adjust it and I have weighed and lifted 2016lbs with no trouble. The most that I lifted with my 3pt is about 1600lbs and that was no problem. My nieghbor has a JD 4300 and decided he was going to buy the large rectangular hay bales. when they were delivered he could not lift them. I put my bucket forks on gave it a try, I was lifting the bale, but the back end starting to come up. Next I put my ballast box on Approx 1,000lbs + I have filled R4s and wheel weights for a total of abought 1,700lbs. Back to the bale and up it went no problem. I did not go very high while moving the bale because it was a very awkward load, but was able to stack one on top of the other. I am not sure of the weight of the bales it was 8-10ft long and about 5ft high and wide. My nieghbor said they were about a ton. I have no idea except they were definatly some of the heaviest loads I ever lifted. I would think your larger loader would be able to this and more. P.S. before all the physics and saftey experts sart jumping all over me again (been there done that) I will say I was very cautious while doing this and would not recommend that this would be the way to go if you had to move many of these bales on a regular basis. I also could not pass up the opportunity to win the local bragging rights. One neighbor has a JD and the other has a kubota.






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 08-30-2003, 09:10 Post: 62917
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

I asked the dealer to check the main and the front end pressure limits. They said they were fine, but would not tell me what the readings were. I'd like to see for myself. Does anyone know a good website to buy a gauge with a hyd. quick connect on it?






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 08-30-2003, 12:02 Post: 62923
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

The loader should move the bales, but you need to consider the size of the bales. Therefore the pressures may be set too low, but depending on the size set on the bailer you can make over sized bales and limit your ability to pick them up also.






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 08-31-2003, 06:37 Post: 62947
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Northern Tool and similar places have inexpensive gauges. Gauges from a hydraulics shop are expensive. Hydraulic gauges are fluid filled for damping but old welding bottle gauges work. I think the Northern Tool ones come with a line ending in a 1/4 NPT male fitting. A hydraulics shop likely would have fittings to adapt that to a quick connector.

The low-pressure settings discussed here usually have been the loader valve pressure relief. Switching the diverter valve (if equipped) to the remote setting would take the loader valve out of the system and only the system relief and 3ph safety relief valves would provide protection. That might be something to try while waiting on a pressure gauge.







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 09-09-2003, 18:19 Post: 63459
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 How much can they really lift TC35D

does anyone know where the CORRECT loader lift/psi specs. can be found for a tc33d ? hav looked in the mags offered by the dealer but they are to generalized. any help would be appreciated.






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