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 07-15-2003, 18:09 Post: 59565
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I have seen a ton of bucket mounted tow hooks, but I humbly think the ones I fabricated look the best. I added a pix (pix #4 when it gets loaded by the webmaster) of the tow hook on the backhoe bucket of which I think is pretty good too. I'm in the process of a welding up a grill guard and armored lights on the ROPs bar. What do you guys think? I think for all the guys that want to add some to their tractor but need some pixtorial ideas, it should give them some ideas and a place to start rather than just welding some hooks on. Check out the MONSTER apple tree stump from the nether regions!!!!






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 07-15-2003, 20:29 Post: 59571
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Nice job.






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 07-16-2003, 07:24 Post: 59584
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I have a couple of safety chains that might work well with those tow hooks. They are about 8' long. One end has a grab hook with a bale so a link can't fall out of the hook if the chain goes slack. The other end has a ring that probably would go in the tow hook.

I use them quite a bit. With regular grab hooks, loads shift and chain slacks--even when load binders are used. I rig a chain for dragging something and get back on the tractor to take out the slack and the link has fallen out. However, my chains are mostly intended as safety chains for trailers.

I'm not sure that apple trees grow that big around here.






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 07-16-2003, 07:56 Post: 59589
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Jeff, a first class job indeed.

I would however like to add a word about safety, particularly if hooks like those are used to restrain the machine for transport.

Anytime you chain a machine by a part that is moveable by hydraulics, you run the risk of tightening the chains against the HYDRAULICS by not having removed all possible travel first. If for instance you use the front hooks to chain the machine by, you would have to first cycle the loader control with the engine off, then tighten the chains, then cycle the hydraulics AGAIN to be sure there is no load produced by the tension on the chains that can be released by hydraulic movement. The same applies to the rear hook on the hoe bucket.

Failure to do this could result in the chains loosening in transport which would adversely affect the load security.

Also be aware that the loader bucket is designed to take weight in a particular way, generally that is as a spread out weight bearing downwards (loaded) or rearwards (pushing into something) on the bottom of the bucket. If you were to, for instance, chain those hooks to something capable of apply a huge load (a stump) and used the bucket rollback circuit to apply force there is a VERY real chance the top of the bucket would bend long before the stump moved. I know because I watched a neighbour at my cottage do EXACTLY that, the bucket was bent beyond repair and one loader arm was slightly twisted.

Do your self a favour and put a big gusset under those hooks BEFORE you regret it.

Best of luck.






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 07-16-2003, 08:18 Post: 59592
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Ditto warning about bending buckets, it is easy to do.

Another thing, once you reinforce the top of the bucket, now you can run the risk of jacking the rear end of the tractor off the ground with the roll back circuit.

It's always something.






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 07-16-2003, 09:14 Post: 59598
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Guys,

What you don't see under the mounting plates of all the hooks is two pieces of 2 inch 1/4 angle welded side by side to form a channel or like Murph said A GUSSET. Welded with 7018 rod the 1/4 plate 3 inches wide is welded on top. The 1/4 angle is side bolted with grade 8 1/2 diameter bolts. I would Never and have never used those hooks to tie the tractor on the trailer for the reasons stated. I tie directly to the loader frame and then tie from the stabilizer arm mounts on the backhoe. I have a custom made chain with a chain binder I use to bind a big load into the loader bucket to keep it from falling out. The backhoe bucket hook as stated has to be used wisely to keep from lifting the tractor in a stretched out boom position. I roll the backhoe bucket so the hook lifts straight up with minimium boom and dipper extension. I never use the backhoe bucket curl to lift. One never wants to use a back hoe bucket hook for lifting out a stump either since Murphy's Law states a "Tree stumps are always stronger and will break things" LMAO, but if you plan your lifting physics correctly, loader/backhoe bucket hooks are a handy item to have on your tractor and they don't have to look like Ma and Pa Kettle designed them. Laughing out loud






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We use a deadfall jig for removing stumps. It is basically a VERY stout tripod which is erected over the offending stump. Suspended from the tripod is a block & tackle arrangement using 1.5" steel cable, the pull power is achieved by a 4" (surplus backhoe) hydraulic cylinder mounted on one leg, the cable doubles over a pulley at the end of the cylinder to create pull. We calculated the vertical lift capacity at about 60 tons, stumps sometimes fight, but rarely win the battle.

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Ok. I gotta know. You made your own tow hooks? How? What material did you begin with and how did you shape and form them?






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They look like the standard tow hooks with retainer clips that you can buy from any Jeep or off road store. They are quite useful and very strong. I have never broken one.






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Looks like a nie job Jeff!! Glad to see you did reinforce the top of the bucket too. Murf, I've seen an outfit like you described, It would be a lot cheaper than to have a backhoe but I like to get a little stick time,and you still have to get it off the lwan






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