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 11-19-2000, 15:02 Post: 21618
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Does anyone here know the differences between the 2710 and 2910 besides HP? I think the 2710 may suit my needs. I am unsure of the price difference as well, maybe $1000.oo? I also noticed a few new ergonomic offerings from Kubota, are they available on both models? Thanks!






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cutter, besides the horsepower difference, the B2910 has a better suspension seat, telescoping lower links on the 3-point, tilt (and I believe telescoping) steering wheel, and an extra hand lever that provides a better "cruise control." I've only read on the discussion board that the price difference is between $600 and $1,000.






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Thanks, Bird Senter. Are the tractors the same physical size and weight? It is impossible to tell from the Carver or Kubota Sites.






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Cutter, they're the same physical size, i.e, frame or chassis, tires, wheels, in fact most parts are interchangeable apparently, but I'm not sure if that slightly larger displacement engine in the B2910 makes it just a tiny bit heavier or not; I would guess there would be a few pounds difference, but not much.






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 11-19-2000, 17:38 Post: 21624
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You might want to think twice about saving the $1000 bucks or so. From my understanding the telescoping/adjustable lower link arms alone are worth almost that difference in price and IMHO worth it (they make changing 3 PT stuff a breeze). Other than that Bird Senter has the other features listed. The B2910 is a great tractor BTW - LOVE mine!






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Thanks to Elkoboy and Bird Senter! Any experience with snow blowers? I am hedging on what to do. Three point would be interchangeable between tractors but a pain to back up all the time. Front mount is very expensive and not interchangeable (if I decide to trade next year rather than now). Is the hydraulic chute a big plus? What brands are reasonable and have large skid shoes? Also,I have seen a loader mounted blade (sold locally for around $2500).






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Hey!, don't forget the ratchet type 3Pt adjuster. I asked my dealer to throw in the 2910's adjuster on my 2710 and he said no problem. The other stuff just didn't look worth the extra $$$. The Kubota brochure says 23Lbs more for the 2910. FYI a BL2560 front blower 3 years old sold for $500 at a local auction. Great price but I woulda had to buy all new brackets to get it on my B2710. Check-out http://www.aldermans.com/ They had great pricing when I was looking, Good luck.






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There's quite a bit of discussion about snow blowers in the archives you might find useful. I use a 3ph blower, and I think that driving backwards is more of a problem thinking about it than doing it. Driving backwards just doesnít bother me. In addition, a 3ph blower has more advantages than just price. With a 3ph blower, you have the blower and loader ready to use, without changing anything. I can't do all my snow removal with the blower alone, and I'd drive backwards all day rather than change equipment during the winter. I do have a gear transmission with four reverses. A HST with several ranges probably would give OK ground speed control, but I'm not sure a gear transmission with only two reverses would be desirable. Keep in mind that the engine has to be run at PTO rpm for the blower to work well, so you can't change engine rmp much to get a desired ground speed. A 3ph blower also provides better steering a front mount. Steering can be a problem, especially with front blades. And, the 3ph blower makes for an instant 550# of rear ballast when I pick it up to use the loader. Without the blower, I'd probably have to carry a ballast box all winter to get enough traction. A hydraulic chute is a must for me since I canít blow the same direction along the whole drive, irrespective of wind direction. I also need very good chute control since I have to clear a highway entrance. I have to be able to keep the snow blowing in the ditch as I make the turns on to the highway shoulder. I also canít allow wind to carry snow from the blower back across the highway.






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Tom,
I did check those postings, and opinions are all over the place. I'm on vac. this week, so I will make a run to several implement places and look at features. How does the selection valve mount? Is it something like a two into one fitting with an internal direction valve? What do they cost? I think unless I trade this fall(which I will do if the price is right) , I will go with the 3pt machine. You have it right about the loader being there when needed, although my driveway is only 200' with a large parking area. I plan on building a barn next year that will add another 3-5ooft. to it, and since it is a field road, a blower would be much less damaging than a rear blade or loader (current implements). I have a stone driveway and will probably have to set it high until it freezes. The stone is the one thing holding me back, I don't want them all over my lawn and with a blade, I can push everything across the road or onto my field road. I will look for shoes with substancial adjustment and width. I have the "round" assorted size landscape stone as a topping, I have picked the large stuf out and rolled it every year, so it is pretty well packed in, but not always real even. Any experiences with this using the blower? Thanks, Cutter.






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Cutter: My hydraulic connection was simple. The control valve assembly contains three sections--two for the loader and one for a rear hydraulic pair. The blower and other 3ph implements with hydraulics use the rear pair. I haven't done it, but I believe that adding another rear pair could be fairly simple. Additional control valve sections are available for some valve assemblies. Places like Northern Hydraulics sell components for 'do it yourselfers,' or a dealer should be able to come up with a package. However, the factory packages, often recommended by dealers, can be pricey. Most compact tractors have open centred hydraulics. External remotes (for loaders etc.) are hooked in series with the line running from the relief valve to the sump. The 3ph also is in this line. However, you do need a pair under control of a spooling valve to run any double action hydraulic cylinder. T-fittings wouldn't work.

In terms of blower use, my drive is gravel (a mixture of small stone and sand). It packs well and it freezes. After the gravel freezes, I simply put the 3ph lever all the way down so the blower 'floats.' Before freeze-up, I try not to use the blower. It has standard skids that sink into the surface. That creates showers of gravel into the yard. I can't get very close to the surface even holding the blower off the ground. The churn of snow in front of the auger blade picks up gravel. Each time the front wheels go up a hill or bump, the blower lowers. It works best for me if I use the loader bucket until freeze-up and just hope there isn't a heavy snow before then. The bucket can be curled back and floated so it rides on its bottom. That method does minimum damage to the drive and doesn't pick up much gravel. It also cleans the surface of anything large enough to jam an auger and break a shear pin. However, a loader doesn't work too well for a heavy snow. If there was a heavy snow before freeze-up, I'd use the blower up high to knock the snow down to a level that is manageable with the loader.






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