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 01-21-2003, 11:30 Post: 47879
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want to buy this tractor wish i could get more info from this site on the ups and downs of this model, im greener than the color of this model on tractors so anything i could find out would really help . want to do general up keep on 40 acers and possible food plots for wildlife and maintian 1000ft dirt road on property. been reading site trying to learn about ballast weight seems real important.dont want to kill myself with first tractor.my land is pretty hilly. been qouted 14k for 790 with 419fel.R1 tires seems pretty fair from what if been reading.






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 01-21-2003, 15:24 Post: 47895
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The 790 is an afordable machine compared to some others with the same horse power rating. The tractor is sort of light in the rear. I do experience traction problems now and again. Its a relatively simple proven design which has been around many years. True about the brakes, they are dry, but, they are made to be replaced. You should get years of faithful service from this machine before you have to worry about replacing the brakes.The fel isnt very practical for heavy excavation work. But, is perfect for most of us average, do it yourself guys around the 'ol place.It sounds like , for what you will be doing, this machine should be perfect. good luck Ron L.






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 01-21-2003, 21:26 Post: 47915
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I've had a J D 790 for over a year an love it. It's done pretty much everything I asked of it. I've run a 5 ft bush-hog, 6 ft rear finish mow,
6 ft rear blade an Woods 5000 chipper. On the front end a FEL with
54 in bucket (same width as tractor) 6 ft FEL mounted snow blade
an pallet forks.

The 790 is John Deere's no frills tractors, it doesn't have any gismos
or electronic gadgets but still very capable of getting the job done.

There's an old saying,"Keep it simple stupid, there's less to go wrong"

If you buy the tractor be sure to have the tires loaded as it does
need the extra weight... .






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 01-23-2003, 08:27 Post: 48001
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whats the price for loading tires and also do you get all 4 loaded?






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 01-23-2003, 09:01 Post: 48004
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We never load the fronts as it is quite easy to add weight there. If you have the loader on and a full bucket it's just more weight that is not needed.






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 01-23-2003, 17:05 Post: 48025
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Hi guys, Im glad you brought up the loading tire subject. I've been toying with the idea of adding liquid to the rear tires of my 790. I was told by john deere that they dont recomend filling the tires with calcium chloride. They said that if you do get a bad leak, that the calcium could sling onto the tractor and it could damage the paint if not immedietly removed. I also know through experiance that even a small leak of calcium around the tires valve stem usually starts eating away at the rims. I spoke with another dealer who advised me to fill the tires with anti freeze because it's less corrosive, eliminating the above problems. Then i bent some more ears and was told that you dont want the extra weight because it is hard on the tractors drive train.......
(what to do...to fill or not to fill)I have a ferguson t0-30 with filled tires and it's a tank, I love the extra weight, but i dont want to cause problems for myself down the road by filling the 790 tires. Any suggestions.
Thanks Ron L. (New Park PA)







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 01-23-2003, 22:24 Post: 48044
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My Deere 4100 clearly recommends calcium filled tires, I don't know why the 790 would be different.
After having filled tires, I have opted for wheel weights. Way less hassle.






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 01-24-2003, 00:28 Post: 48049
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The rear tires on my 790 are loaded with Molasses. I think it'd made
from sugar beets by am not positive. The stuff is thick, stinks and
weight about 10 1/2 lbs per/gal. The molasses are non corrosive,
and biodegradable.

If your only going to do PTO work you don't need the weight but if
your planning on a FEL, or doing work requiring ground traction you
better load the tires...

The weight it self has very little effect on the tractor as it's carried
by the tires but the weight does increase traction so this does
make the drive train work a little harder. I'm sure the tractors
built to take it as most tractors with FEL have loaded tires..






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 01-24-2003, 03:59 Post: 48050
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"(what to do...to fill or not to fill)I have a ferguson t0-30 with filled tires and it's a tank, I love the extra weight, but i dont want to cause problems for myself down the road by filling the 790 tires. Any suggestions.
Thanks Ron L. (New Park PA)"

I don't expect you'd have any problems if you filled your tires to the 75% mark (just above the top of the wheel with the valve being at the 12:00 O'Clock position).
As for added wear on the drive train components...I suppose in theory the added weight would add some inertia to the initial rotation of the wheels, but since we're doing about 11 MPH max, just can't see this being an issue.
My 670's tires are loaded.....friend of mine with an 855 has had his loaded (with calcium choride) for 15 years with no adverse affect.

Ron, you're in New Park. If that's the town I'm thinking of (between Stewartstown and Fawn Grove), you might want to try Southern York County Turf and Tractor. They fill with windshield washer fluid.






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 01-24-2003, 06:52 Post: 48057
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Far as I know CACL works fine with tubes as long as there aren't leaks. Any loading material complicates tire repair and has varying degrees of disposal problems. Most are toxic (dogs love anti-freeze). The molasses probably is a product called Rim Guard, which may be the lest toxic, least corrosive and heaviest by volume of all.

Tractors are made to be ballasted so their traction and balance can be adjusted to particular operations. A 75% liquid fill is pretty standard and shouldn't be a problem for most tractors.

Liquid fill is cheap but it isn't convenient. It also is virtually permanent and is always there whether needed or not. Wheel weights are expensive but can be detached. They don't leak and a person probably can fix their own tires without calling the mobile tire repair people.

There have been quite a few discussions about ballast weight and tractor wear and tear. The main idea seems to be that a tractor should be ballasted appropriately for its main work. Too much or too little isn't good. In terms of 'too much,' there is extra weight to be moved every time the tractor slows or speeds. There's extra wear on gear trains and brakes in general and clutches and HST pumps in particular.

Carrying weight that isn't needed will shorten part service life expectancies. However, tractors are designed to have adequate service lives and few compact owners are likely to wear out their tractors ballasted or not. I guess the question is why shorten the working life if extra weight isn't needed? Extra weight also makes a tractor less suitable for driving on lawns. I prefer unloaded turfs and a heavy box scraper for loader work. Weight on the 3ph lightens steering where as wheel weight doesn't. The PS on my ford is gimpy.






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