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 03-03-2002, 18:48 Post: 36034
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Well, I have been a Dodge fan my entire life. For a time the trucks were a bit stodgy, but good workers all the same. Growing up near the end of the muscle car era, my first car was an old '62 Dodge and my first new one a high performance Dart. I went back to Jeep for a time in recent years and then most recently to a 2000 Tacoma 4x4. My wife and I took it on our last several trips to Canada, and she complained every time about the size of the cab (and she is not a big girl). With the onset of Dodge's newest design for 2002 in the 1500 model line, I decided (read she decided) to look into a new and larger truck again. I drove the current body style first, a 2002 model 2500 4x4 and then hooked up with the new 1500 4x4 that sports the latest make-over. That new 4.7L v-8 was like running an old Road Runner, what great performance! The ride and handling rival that of a sports car, unbelievable. I could not get used to it's being a truck but feeling like a car. Most people would love that, especially the wives I imagine. Mine did not care, although she did give the thumbs up to the 1500 and the luxury appointments. At 26K that rig was fully loaded, including overhead console with electronics and 17" chrome wheels. I ended up paying 3k more and buying the older style 2500 with slightly less equipment. Still in all, that truck is set up with all the heavy duty packages and rides quite nicely. I always liked the looks of the latest Dodges and after finally driving one, I am quite impressed, despite magazine articles that say the truck is "dated". I can now haul, tow and plow if I wish with very little limitation. Besides, I couldn't beat the deal considering all the rebate money and low financing out there.






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 03-04-2002, 07:00 Post: 36050
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Wouldn't mind having a new 3500 4x4 turbo diesel dually myself. Unfortunately, my '89 Chevy only has 55,000 on it, and while the body is pounded up a bit, the mechanicals are perfect.

And I can put a LOT of gas through that 454 for what the monthly payment on a new one would cost me... ":^(






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 03-04-2002, 08:45 Post: 36053
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Toyota is missing a market opprotunity. Imagine if they produced a serious one ton or a 3/4 ton pick-up. I think they would take the market by storm.






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 03-04-2002, 09:45 Post: 36056
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Mark;
I believe the Merlins also had the water injection. I know they had a limit on the throttles that when broken the in emergancy the engine had to be overhauled.
Did you know that the NA P-51 was commissioned for the British and the first 500 were shipped there. The engines, Allisons I believe were not up to the preformance standards and the Spitts could run rings around them. The Britts took the engines out and tossed then in the scrap and reengined them with the Merlins. Later version came with the Packards Merlins.
Mark you are correct the F8F and F4U had the r-2800 18 cylinder 2 bank. I thought they had the larger 27 cylinder 3 banked like the B-29 of the Martin Mars.
Incidently F-8 was the designation to the AAF Mosquitos during the war.






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 03-04-2002, 10:53 Post: 36059
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I found my books, a small miracle after a 3500 mile move. I can confirn a R 2800 (2 banks of 9 cylinders) and a compound supercharger on models as early as the F4U-1's. The reference also says the same engine configuration was used on the P-47. If memory serves, the original batch of P-51's only developed 1200 HP.. a woefully inadequate number. Later models equiped with the newer R/R Merlins developed closer to 2000 horses but by that time Goodyear was making Corsairs with 3000 HP. I think this was the 3 row engine you remember. The Corsair, regardless of its production date was always a better machine than the P-51, except for maybe in the area of super-long range escort duties. The last time a Corsair and a Mustang got cross threaded was in 1969 during a periodic Central American pissing contest (whoops, I meant to say urination olympics). On July 17 of that year a trio of Honduran F4U-5's tangled with a pair of Salvadorian P-51-D's. The Corsair turned inside the Mustang and separated the P-51 from it's wing with a burst from the 20mm wing guns. You might enjoy the link below, especially if your computer can process streaming video.






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 03-04-2002, 13:11 Post: 36063
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I forget to mention the turbo issue.... I think they were around in WW II (I have found several references), but the oils of the era didn't do a very good job lubricating something turning 100,000 plus RPM's in an exaust gas enviornment. The usual result was to turn the oil into something it would eventually become if left alone, coal. Even the best oils today are challenged by heat and pressures of exaust driven turbochargers.






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I thonk you are correct the later versions of the f4U had the R-3XXX. I can not find any info on it yet. I recall the 3000 HP figure and the 490 MPH (in a dive).






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Seems to me that the F-8F's ran 3350's. And I think the F-4U's did too. The P-47's had 2800's. Correct me if I'm wrong.






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