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Chief
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2003-08-13          61781


I cannot imagine the monster it would take run this generator. By my figuring, this thing would require 200 PTO shaft hp! Maybe a JD 8520? Not many of those floating around ehh??? They advertise that it requires 170 PTO shaft hp. I always thought 2 hp per KW was required? The backup PTO generator on my father's dairy farm was only 30K. Anyway, I didn't realize that PTO generators this big were made.


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F350Lawman
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2003-08-13          61791


Just a thought how much HP does the PTO on a diesel pickup generate? Should be pretty substantial. The offer them as an option and I was curious.

Who needs 100K anyway unless your powering a small hospital? ....

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2003-08-13          61793


Good point! LOL! I never thought about that. I would imagine your Power Stroke or my Cummins could generate every bit of 200 PTO hp. You are right, a 100k could power a small neighborhood. I have never seen a truck pto hooked up like that. Would be really interesting to see how it is done. ....

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F350Lawman
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2003-08-13          61795


Hey all you need is some meters and you're in business. How much is a kilowatt these days :)

That is about the only option I don't have, I too am curious how they work. My friend has the PTO but he got it because it was on the truck already. He has no use for it but I will take a look next time I see him.

I think on the Fords it is only available with automatics? ....

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Art White
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2003-08-14          61806


Don't get to excited about running one off your truck. Those PTO units are only good for 10,15,maybe 25 horsepower on a big truck. ....

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Chief
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2003-08-14          61814


Well, so much for that idea. ;-) Learned something else new. I always wondered what the PTO's on our pickup trucks were intended to be used for. Probably just smaller accessories for the truck like a maybe a winch or small hyd. pump for a dump cylinder then? ....

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2003-08-14          61828


It is about the only thing on the truck you can't find ANY information about. No wonder we didn't know anything about them :(.

I do have to take a look at one. I guess they would come in handy for running a small home generator Funny though I see kits for running generators and compressors off pulleys on the motor. I guess the PTOs really aren't that useful?

Anyone ever use one? ....

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harvey
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2003-08-14          61865


Generally pto pumps are located on or in back of transmission. Was not aware pickups would have that transmission option. The 1 tons used pumps on the engine to power hyds on small dumps or plows. I have seen spots on side covers of standard transmissions of small trucks, but suspect cost a limiting factor, for aux units.

Almost all mid size on up thru the very big quarry trucks and all large dumps and tractor trailer, dumps, live bottoms and walking floors have pto driven hyd either direct drives or thru shafts.

Capasities vary my current truck moves almost 40 gpm at 2400psi to operate the trailer planitary which moves a conveyor belt in the bottom of the trailer and moves a 33+ ton load.

Our dumps have baby pumps on them by comparison but still able to hoist 25 ton loads.


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2003-08-14          61866


I'll bet you guys up in New York, Minnesota, and along the East coast could be puttin' that 100K genny to good use about now could ya? I heard in the news that the power is out all over the place and the preverbial turds are hitting the fan. You all doing alright? ....

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2003-08-14          61873


Go ahead rub it in wiseguy! :)

I actually was thinking of this post when the power went out. I was getting hay at the local dairy farmer's place so I unloaded real quick and raced 80-90mph to BJ's and HD to buy the generator I saw on sale last week. No dice they were all closed. My buddy snagged a 9.7KW Wacker generator but it cost $2500at the local ToolShed, ouch!
The best I could do was get a power inverter ( at ShopRite)and hook it up to the old Powerstroke. It was good enough to run a fan, small tv/vcr combo, light, radio and charge cell phones.

We went in the pool to cool off and we have propane stoves so dinner wasn't an issue. My biggest issue is water for the horse but with the power inverter and a small sump pump I can go down to the reservoir (1/4 mile away) and fill 55 gallons drums with water as needed.

Well 6 hours later and the power is back on so all is well again.

I have been eyeing a Generac standby system that runs off propane for several years now. That is why I never bought a portable. The Generac Guardian is 7000 wats, runs on propane, turns itself on and off as a result of voltage drops and comes in a nice case with a base for $2200 with the power panel.

I AM GETTING IT WITHOUT DELAY ....

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2003-08-15          61875


It seems like we have power failures at least monthly. This latest blackout makes me appreciate the frequent outages - we are now prepared for them and just accept outages as a matter of course. It's harder when they occur while we're out of town, but I'm working on a fix for that. ....

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2003-08-15          61876


Here's the solution for when you're not home, this what I am looking at as well

On sale with shipping $1985 ....


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Art White
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2003-08-15          61877


With the power falures we've had from ice storms and just wind we've had a lot of people buying generators. There is good and bad with them just like everything else. Generac has not been the best name in this area for longevity. For a house and a temporary unit it might be fine. My neighboring dealer sold a mess of them to the farmers in the area and took the bulk of them back, as they couldn't handle it and failed. I don't know what part failed or that much about the brand but it seems like they either work well or they don't work for long at all. From what I've been told there is only two companies that make the generator bodies. One is very good and the other one is considered nearly disposable. I was told that it is not the engine alone that makes the price difference but the generator bodies have a big price difference between the good and the lesser one. I guess beware when buying as you think you are buying a security blanket when it might only be temporary. It seems strange over this past nite as we had a couple second flutters but never lost power sitting right in the middle of it all. ....

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Chief
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2003-08-15          61890


If anyone is interested these guys have GREAT prices. Here is a 10K propane backup genny. ....


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2003-08-16          61988


I've looked online and have read nothing but good reviews on Generacs. I did read on an RV forum of a past problem with faulty oil safety switches that caused shutdowns. Just a case of a safety switch being too sensitive and causing shutdowns riht after startup. There was a way to bypass it and Generac replaced the safety switches.

The standby systems should alert you too any potential problems as they start themselves and run once a week for 7 minutes or longer if you specify. 2 year 2000 hour warranty as well. ....

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2003-08-17          61998


The HP to run one is sort of an old issue now but I'll comment anyway. The theoretical horses needed for a theoretical KW is around 1 1/3HP. The 2HP/KW rule of thumb provides for some slippage between the theoretical and real worlds, a pad to accommodate surges and also doesn't require an engine to run flat out for extended periods.

Pure speculation here, but I've always heard this rule of thumb applied to small engine generators but it might be a bit rich for larger generators. If the generator mentioned is a very good deal, a large farm tractor might run one OK. There'd be the issue of weight and inertia of a large generator on the pto clutch, but smaller breakers probably could be installed to limit the HP requirements.
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