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Why is Iowa a Blue leaning state

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bubba5
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2012-10-25          185308


Just curious if anyone knows why Iowa leans towards the democratic party? I have been there a couple of times but I have not learned what makes Iowa different than its red state leaning neighbors,

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Art White
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2012-11-02          185360



New schools teaching people how to better serve there masters, the government to take advantage of the new systems of freebies. Not that they are free, america is broke by any other persons money. ....

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2012-11-02          185366


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Just curious if anyone knows why Iowa leans towards the democratic party?
Dead simple; farmer welfare. The Republican party (and I) would like to see a gradual end to farm subsidies, starting with ethanol.

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Art White
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2012-11-03          185370



I don't worry to much about the bulk of farm subsidies. It's the non farm and freebie's for every one else that should be labeled as support programs that should be lumped together so we could see what really gets given away to those who give nothing to this economy. It is amazing to find that in NY alone there is 1.7 million people on disability for being obese! Then you have those that have grown up on the social systems! When the government gets so big that the people count on it for there existance that the country is in trouble. Our social programs dwarf many of the things that people complain about as far as our government spending. ....

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2012-11-03          185377


No argument whatsoever Art, about the freeloaders. They just represent bought and paid for Democratic votes. But don't think I consider 90% of US farmers to be in that group. That said, just ten percent of America's largest and richest farms collect almost three-fourths of of the government handouts. And a huge percentage of that is corn for ethanol. Adding to that, I'm a diesel guy. My taxes subsidize ethanol that I don't even use.

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2012-11-04          185382



If Iowa is considered a Democratic stae it would only have been in the last election, Iowa has pretty much always went Republican in past elections. Iowa's four largest newspapers have all went with the Republican side of the coming election.
OK, now about the farm subsidies. For anyone who has bothered to study the expired last farm bill you would understand that roughly ten to eleven percent of the money ever ends up in a farmers pocket, the lions share goes for social programs for anyone, not just farmers. Food stamps, WIC, school lunch programs, forestry programs, etc., on and on. I never was in the class of a large farmer, but I don't deny the subsidies to those who take the greatest risks to produce for a nation that demands cheap food.

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2012-11-04          185383


Good point Frank. I forgot that SNAP was a USDA program. But the 2008 Farm Bill is a five year $288 billion dollar bill passed in 2008. What they're calling the 2012 Farm Bill is still sitting in the House. So while the 2008 bill hasn't technically expired, it's pretty much been spent into oblivion. That bill was partially based upon then-current food stamp participation, which was allocated $39 billion for 2008. Under this administration, participation exploded to $82 billion - in 2012 alone.

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" (Margaret Thatcher)

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2012-11-04          185384


Hi Frank,

Do you get the feeling Iowa will go for Romney this time even though the polls are favoring Obama by 5 points?

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2012-11-04          185386


Dennis;

I would be surprised if Iowa went Democratic again, but I am far far from bing a political expert.

Both Obama and Romney seem to be so far out of the common peoples class that we seem to be voting more for a king than a president.

Most all of us with even a hint of gray hair know that neither one of the candidates can or will do 99% of the things they are promising.

I did learn one thing about Romney this past week, his real first name is Willard, I had seriously wondered if his parents named him Mit.

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2012-11-07          185414


Unfortunately:
Iowa Precincts reporting: 1688/1689
President: Obama - 816,174, Romney - 727,545

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2012-11-08          185420



It's unfortunate that although we send our kids to schools many children are not learning world history. To study Argentina's fate wuold probably scare them although through innocent minds they might not believe it could happen here.
We have run amock with getting the benifits to those who don't need them and those that do, while to many of them are still to proud to ask for them. It is those that are to proud that I'll be more then glad to give to. Those that expect it after two or three generations, while it's time to get them off to work! ....

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2012-12-14          185725


Art - your correct some areas the people may be too proud to ask for asistance but other areas watch out..you get trampled by the rush. It's a culture thing -watched the Ken Burns Dust Bowl series, said that people then were very conscientious of letting anyone know they took assistance and only did as last resort. Time/culutre has changed from then and now seems to have 'embraced' the new 'it's owe'd me'. Got the the following clip from a close friend who's training in the medical field in a large inner city, where he got it from not sure...he did say the writer hit the mark from what he has seen
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Dear Mr. President:
During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of
evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive
Shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of
elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive
Brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone
equipped with a popular R&B ringtone. While glancing over her Patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"!
During my examination of her, the patient informed
Me that she smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer.
And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care?
I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the
Result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather,it is the result of a "crisis of culture", a culture in which it is perfectly
Acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based on the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever
I want to because someone else will always take care of me".
Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and
dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care
Difficulties will disappear.

Respectfully,
STARNER JONES, MD
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