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johncase142
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2010-10-09          174485


I have a 2006 JD Gator TS (4x2) that I purchased over the summer. I know that JD makes a snow blade kit for it, so I'm assuming the Gator will push snow. I'm having a real hard time finding a snow blade other than the JD which concerns me a bit.

Does anybody know if this little Gator will push snow easily? If so, what kind of blade setup can I get?

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hardwood
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2010-10-09          174489


John;
Just curious why it concerns you that only Deere offers the snow blade? Normally equipment offerd by the base machine builders fit and operate better than aftermarket offerings.
I've never had a blade on a Gator but being two wheel drive would seem to be a negative unless lots of ballast were in the cargo box to help you back out of a drift.
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johncase142
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2010-10-10          174505


My only concern with the JD blade is that I was quoted $1800. I'm sure it's top shelf quality, but it's out of my price range. I was looking for something that could attach to the front or rear receiver hitch. Most of the ATV/UTV devices seem to be model specific. ....

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earthwrks
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2010-10-11          174523


Meyers makes a plow.

BUT having been a commercial snow plower, a 2-wd-anything is not a good thing. Plowing snow takes in many, many variables such as: machine weight, available HP and speed, width of plow and its height, type and width of tires, type of tread, available traction, pavement conditions (ice covered or dry?) and type, weather conditions and temp, type of snow---light and fluffy, wet and heavy.

For reference Caterpillar Corp says under most good conditions a machine cannot push more than the weight of the pusher. So if the gator weighs 700 lbs. don't expect more than that to be pushed.

And 4x4 is essential if you want to turn the plow--otherwise your front end will slide sideways--even with 4x4. But that goes back to weight, traction and conditions.

I had a 4x4 Suzuki quad I put 4' plow on. I tried moving dry dirt and wood chips (before the snow came) on dry clay ground. What a joke. Sold it before I got in over my head--literally.

I have an 8,000 lb. skid steer like the one in my avatar with an 8' plow. I cannot push more than 8" of semi-wet snow without spinning or sliding sideways. ....

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2010-10-11          174529


I use my 4x2 gator to plow snow, it does dang good. Never got stuck once last year. All I know is tires make a huge difference! ....

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2010-10-11          174531


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I use my 4x2 gator to plow snow, it does dang good. Never got stuck once last year. All I know is tires make a huge difference!
What kind of blade setup do you have?

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2010-10-12          174538


And what were the conditions---weather, snow type and depth, etc.? ....

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2010-10-12          174543


No Gator experience but lots with snow.

Blades are no problem -- it's the mount. And if the mount isn't for a standard rear 3-pt-hitch you're likely in for some searching.

You can compensate for 2WD with a narrower blade, but it still has to be wider than the vehicle track. Weights and lug tires will help only so much. I have 4WD and plenty of extra ballast, and still need four chains to get through most stuff. ....

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2010-10-12          174544


Auer a 3pt on a gator?

And the blade has to be adequately wider than track when rotated to avoid driving on trail-off. ....

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2010-10-13          174565


While I dispute the generalized statement that 2WD is not a good choice for snow plowing, I do agree that in something as small and light as a Gator, it's not likely going to yield 'pleasing' results.

Aside from that, there are certain limits that you will never really get past, traction is one of them, you have 'X' horsepower, which can only do 'Y' amount of work, period.

In this case you have a couple of items that actually work against you;

First is weight, ideally, the optimum power to weight ratio for traction is about 100 pounds per horsepower. The Gator TS (11.1 hp) so it should top out around 1,100 pounds, but the dry weight is already about 915 pounds and that's before the operator gets in.

The second is width, as was mentioned, you want a plow wider than the wheel track, which is 60".

The third is traction itself, pushing just a 60" plow will be a challenge.

Finally, the almighty horsepower. From a 'rule of thumb' point of view, 11 hp just isn't enough grunt to push a 5' snow plow. We used to clear sidewalks with a 24 hp machine pushing a 5' plow, it was a real challenge sometimes. Sometimes it just didn't work, period. Usually we could sneak by using smaller cuts on each pass.

Bottom line, if you're determined to use the Gator TS, put a blower on it like they do the ATV's, blower in front, engine out back.


Best of luck. ....

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2010-10-19          174664


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What kind of blade setup do you have?


72'' straight ....

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2010-10-19          174665


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And what were the conditions---weather, snow type and depth, etc.?


snowy/windy the snow wasn't light, but wasn't heavy or wet. depth was 7-8'' ....

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2010-10-20          174681


I have a CX and even this little Gator seems to do well plowing. Just diff lock on and wheel weights in the back and no chains. I've spent the last few years plowing my neighbors drives in NE Illinois just for fun. Even if the snow is so deep that it over flows the plow top under speed it just means the first pass you raise the plow up a few inches and re-do. Far exceeded my expectations.

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2010-10-20          174682


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Originally Posted by gatormaki | view 174681
I have a CX and even this little Gator seems to do well plowing. Just diff lock on and wheel weights in the back and no chains. I've spent the last few years plowing my neighbors drives in NE Illinois just for fun. Even if the snow is so deep that it over flows the plow top under speed it just means the first pass you raise the plow up a few inches and re-do. Far exceeded my expectations.Here's a pick

Do you have the JD blade, or something else? If else, do you mind sharing? Sorry, I haven't seen the actual JD blade. ....

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2010-10-20          174683


That's the JD blade and electric lift plus the recommended heavy duty front shocks. It's a well built kit with what looks like adjustable bronze blade skids on each side. Still I easily had enough force to bend a skid mount on an un-foreseen object last winter. Blade angle is manual. The blade connect to the lift is super fast with just a couple of bolt clips on a triangular mount so I leave the lift on all year and substitute a winch for the blade. ....

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