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gball7
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2008-03-02          151837


Hey folks,
I just took delivery of my new Kubota BX2350. One of the implements I got is the LandPride RTR0550 rotary tiller.

Quick question re: PTO hookup; when I went to disconnect the tiller (which was on the tractor at delivery) in order to go retrieve my box blade from the lawn where the hauler had left it, I noticed that the driveline/u-joint connection to the tractor came off of the splines fairly easily, just by retracting the driveline in on itself by hand.

The tiller engaged and spun-up OK during my test of my unit at the dealer, so I assume this hookup was correct, but it just seemed weird to me that the hookup was presumably held onto the tractor shaft merely by friction and supposely the tension of the small safety chain (attached from the shaft to a lower link on the tractor) holding the driveline safety cover on.

Do I have this correct, that just seating the u-joint firmly onto the splines is the only action needed to hook the shaft to the tractor? Or is there some kind of pin that I need to connect laterally through the shaft, or something else to lock it on there?

For your info, the owner's manual for the tiller says my unit comes with a "pull collar coupling", for what that's worth.

Thanks,
Mike in NC



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2008-03-02          151839


The pto shaft should lock in place. It's entirely possible that it will work for awhile unlocked but it's not a good thing. If you look at the tractor end splines there is a grove around the circumference of the shaft. PTO shafts have a lock assembly designed to lock onto that groove, usually with a pushbutton or slip ring collar style of lock. You push the button or pull the collar back when sliding the pto shaft in place and the it should lock in solid. Keep it clean and greased and it should go pretty easy. ....

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gball7
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2008-03-02          151842


Thanks KW,
I'll be sure to folo these steps when I put the tiller back on the tractor. I replaced the PTO shaft cover on the tractor, so I'll be keeping that spline nice and clean like you recommend.
Thanks again,
Mike ....

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hardwood
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2008-03-02          151844


Mike, congradulations on you new equipment, you will get the hang of things pretty quick. I've used LandPride equipment for years and have always been pleased with the quality of work they do and their durability. Last spring I almost bought a revers rotaion tiller but ended up with a regular front rotation Land Pride. They sat side by side on the dealer lot, I would have like to have bought both of them, but I haven't won the Powerball yet. Keep us informed on how you like the reverse rotation tiller. Frank. ....

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2008-03-02          151848


You will love that Kubota BX2350 Sub Compact. Great tractor. I am glad to hear the Landpride has a good tiller. We have been a happy BushHog Dealer but have just taken on Land pride equipment.
Kevin
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2008-03-03          151854


It is very possible the pto shaft was not pushed on sufficient at the dealership for it to be locked in place. A little dirt or such can also interfere with the pto shaft locking sometimes. If you can pull it off without releasing a locking device, do not run it. It can be dangerous. Though if it is coming off, sure rather have it come off tractor end than implement end.

While you have it off the tractor is a good time to work it looking at how it locks so you honestly can do it with your eyes closed for they are hard to see with the safety shields. kt ....

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gball7
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2008-03-18          152257


Greetings guys,
I used my FEL this past weekend to bust out a stump of a little tree that fell on our property in heavy storms here in NC the previous week. Worked great. Cut up the trunk and hauled it to the pile with the FEL. Worked great! Really useful tool. Still getting comfortable with curling/lowering-raising the boom while backing up, etc., but it'll be second nature soon.

I read in the BX2350 owner's manual that the safety sheild over the pto shaft flips up, for easier collar locking when re-attaching the tiller driveline. I'm going to mow this weekend, but then plan to reattach the tiller properly for garden work.

Happy (almost) spring to all,
Mike
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2008-03-19          152264


gball, did you get hit by the front this past Saturday? SC had some tornados but they were all small compared to most. kt ....

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2008-03-19          152266


KT,
Yes, we did get hit by that bad front... but I wouldn't say we got nailed (which is the word I'd normally use). The gusts were "only" 60mph but no successive lines of tornados or anything that bad. Did get tons of rain, which we desperately needed... Are you guys in SC also in a drought? I know GA and AL are, but was sure hw far southeast the problem goes.
Best- Mike ....

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2008-03-19          152267


Mike, I live about 25 miles west of Myrtle Beach. Last year was drying than normal but nothing like further in land was. There was a period of about 3 or 4 weeks our lawn turned as brown as if it were winter. So far this year we have had good rains. Tried driving in a field yesterday afternoon and it is still boggy. Yet, hit a pile of dry dirt in a low wooded area. River closest to me is full but swamps and ponds I think are still on the low side. Our pond looks to be about 2 to 3 feet lower than normal this time of year. Very much aware that part of NC is/was very dry also. kt ....

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2008-03-19          152270


KT, you know this already, but the temptation in these parts is to wish for tropical action this summer to get rid of this drought. But we're just wishing for a couple tropical storms that sit down for a couple days and spin. Being near MB, or anywhere in the south really, no one wishes more. Just a good soakin'. I'm hoping that's what we get- just some good stay-put-awhile rain. I need to till our garden setup in the coming weeks, and the rain we've been having has been separated enough by drying days, so should be fine. ....

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2008-03-19          152271


Hardwood-
Sorry for the slow response- I will let you know my thoughts on the reverse tilling. I have to till up some serious overgrown (grass/weed) areas in the front and think that the reverse will make quicker work of it. Will give a report.
Mike ....

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2008-03-19          152273


Mike, yep have heard it more than once we need a hurricane. Boy with the rain the mid west got yesterday, not sure a tropical strom would beat that. 12 inches in 24 hours is a lot. But Floyd was a soaker to eastern NC. We flooded here from the rain of Floyd in NC with the water coming down river. The rain it dropped here was not that bad but boy did we know it when the NC flood water came down rivers. Have fun in the garden. Trust no fluke freeze this year. kt ....

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2008-03-19          152274


Boy, what I would give for some dry ground right about now. A new customer called me today saying they had water standing in the backyard and wanted a drain pipe installed. I stuck the shovel in the ground and "clink"--the ground is still frozen about 3" below the grass. And tomorrow it's suppose to snow about 3-4". ....

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2008-03-19          152277


Earthworks,
That's quirky weather (water and permafrost at the same time, then snow forecast)! I lived in Fargo, ND for a few years, and I recall the unpredictability of spring weather in the upper midwest quite well. It's one of a kind. Hope you get some drying, and gradual/non river-flooding thawing soon! ....

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2008-03-19          152282


Thanks gball! I like to say that the weather here is like 6 months of good sledding (not really--we don't get more than about 32" some years) and another 6 months of not-so-good sledding. My customer was kinda shocked when he asked me when it will be dry enough so I could come back and regrade his yard. He really didn't want to hear mid-May. It's not the end of the world but we can see it from here. ....

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2008-03-20          152286


EW, you have been two places like that...where you could see the end of the world, right? With your connections have you thought about winter in was it Miss or La and summers in Mich? kt ....

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2008-03-20          152288


Kenny you are more correct than you know. As far a "contacts" down there, well, let's just say they let me down again by changing their mind, not committing, never coming up with a plan--I was suppose to work on the Coast.

So now the only connection I have is YOU---and I have been sitting by the phone like a freshman girl on Prom night. ....

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2008-03-20          152295


EW, right now be glad you are not on the coast. Work is slow for some very much. But there are those who are still busy. Seems the smaller companies are busier than the bigger ones. Which I guess means the smaller jobs are going on but not the bigger ones. kt ....

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2008-03-23          152346


Happy Easter, gents,

Wanted to report that I mowed yesterday for the first time with my brand new Kubota BX2350. Some of our property was ready for a cutting, and some wasn't, so I'd say I only cut about 2 acres. The fuel gauge moved perhaps only 1/8 of a tank, so I think I'll like this lil diesel's fuel economy. The 60"MMM works awesome, and I mowed at 2400rpm, as the book says don't run full speed when breaking-in. I was mowing some deep patches, so for those I just eased off on the HST continuing in 2-high and just let the blades get a little more swipe time on the thick stuff. I did manage to (not paying attention) shave a rock, making a heck of a racket (understatement) before I disengaged the PTO. The score was rock 0, center blade 0, as the rock looked to be shaved down/missing about a 1/4" of mineral off the top, and the center blade now has several quarter inch barbs/malformations on its leading edges. Since the center is gear box, direct-drive, the blade apparently wasn't slowed at all while widdling on the rock. The tractor's engine didn't even blink, but the deck shut off instantly once I disengaged the PTO... didn't spool down like normal.

So now I seek suggestions on hopefully grinding out these rough spots. Yes, the cut of the center blade suffered slightly after this collision, so I do want to, I suppose, benchgrind the blade as much as I can. Thoughts on the best way to go about it? I can always order a new blade for the center if it won't temper back into a smooth, sharp surface. I honestly don't think the damage is that bad that I can't 'recondition' the leading edges with enoguh grinding. I just don't want to lose temper, going at it for too long.

Thoughts? Again, hope all's holiday was happy,
Best,
Mike (in NC) ....

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